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> Originally originally (~400BC) voting was basically for the army to decide when and where it would fight; This simply isn't true, since other topics were def
by atq2119 7y ago
> Originally originally (~400BC) voting was basically for the army to decide when and where it would fight;
This simply isn't true, since other topics were definitely voted on. For example, rather famously, there were votes on whether a person should be exiled from the city in ancient Greece.
- roenxi 7y agoThere was a lovely quote from that era that said "A city with a navy become democracy, with an army a tyranny". I can't find a reference, but what I can find is this choice quote from Wikipedia [0]: "Only adult male Athenian citizens who had completed their military training as ephebes had the right to vote in Athens." I was a bit vague in my original comment, but the point I'm going for is that this looks lot like the army being in charge. The criteria wasn't "men because we like men". The criteria was questions like "are you going to be lining up to fight the Persians with me?" and "Can you build ships?". And a hint of nationalism/classism. If it were feasible to field women on the battlefield in 404BC they would have been voting too. And indeed, as soon as we reach a level of technology where it is feasible for women to be policepersons and military contributors they start getting suffrage. It was still a battle, but the timing is highly suspicious. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy#Participation_and_exclusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy#Participati...