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Google. Consider: - donations to climate deniers such as CEI - work on totalitarian tools such as project dragonfly or PRISM - sabotage of competitors, e.g.

Google. Consider: - donations to climate deniers such as CEI - work on totalitarian tools such as project dragonfly or PRISM - sabotage of competitors, e.g. breaking search and YouTube on Firefox - feigning investment to steal ideas Of course, in big companies, bad stuff is bound to happen every now and then. I just think that the above can't be explained away as isolated mishaps, because it happened (or is still happening) over long periods of time, involving many people (quite a few of which resigned as a consequence). Similar criticism can obviously be leveled at the other big players, and I wouldn't work for, say, Facebook either. On the other hand, I wouldn't expect, say, Microsoft, to develop a dystopian search engine for an authoritarian regime. Surely, most people who are working at Google do so without contributing to any sinister purpose (unless you consider ads evil I guess). I just feel there are other companies with considerable impact where I wouldn't have to worry as much about potential abuse of what I'm building.

username90 7y ago
> On the other hand, I wouldn't expect, say, Microsoft, to develop a dystopian search engine for an authoritarian regime. Funny that you bring this up since Bing already does everything project dragonfly intended to do and is available in China.
- jaynetics 7y ago
  Does it? I've read that one of the goals of dragonfly was to allow the government to look up the full search history of every user, which seems to go far beyond Bing's complicity in censorship. On the other hand, Microsoft was the first external partner of the PRISM program, and gave away backdoors before it was mandatory, so definitely in the "big brother knows best" camp :(
pmart123 7y ago
Google login breaks YouTube for me on Chrome (for two years now) so potentially it’s just incompetence.
stealthcat 7y ago
It's super hard to avoid "evil" in BigCo. If you drag the chain of evilness long enough, you almost don't want to work under any tech companies. Depending on your willingness. Like Intel CPU R&D center is established in Haifa, Palestine, Palestinian Arab villagers literally driven away, homes were destroyed, they never returned back. Today almost everyone uses Intel CPU, including Palestinians (ironically). Or even any US companies in general, where native Americans are driven away from North America.
- interactivecode 7y ago
  Only shit, didnt know this. Do you have more info about haifa and intel? Why did they build there?

username90 7y ago

> On the other hand, I wouldn't expect, say, Microsoft, to develop a dystopian search engine for an authoritarian regime. Funny that you bring this up since Bing already does everything project dragonfly intended to do and is available in China.

jaynetics 7y ago
Does it? I've read that one of the goals of dragonfly was to allow the government to look up the full search history of every user, which seems to go far beyond Bing's complicity in censorship. On the other hand, Microsoft was the first external partner of the PRISM program, and gave away backdoors before it was mandatory, so definitely in the "big brother knows best" camp :(

pmart123 7y ago

Google login breaks YouTube for me on Chrome (for two years now) so potentially it’s just incompetence.

stealthcat 7y ago

It's super hard to avoid "evil" in BigCo. If you drag the chain of evilness long enough, you almost don't want to work under any tech companies. Depending on your willingness. Like Intel CPU R&D center is established in Haifa, Palestine, Palestinian Arab villagers literally driven away, homes were destroyed, they never returned back. Today almost everyone uses Intel CPU, including Palestinians (ironically). Or even any US companies in general, where native Americans are driven away from North America.

interactivecode 7y ago
Only shit, didnt know this. Do you have more info about haifa and intel? Why did they build there?