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The title of the article says "English majors", but the body says "Liberal Arts majors". "Liberal Arts" isn't a category of undergraduate major. It is it's ow
by ltbarcly3 7y ago
The title of the article says "English majors", but the body says "Liberal Arts majors".
"Liberal Arts" isn't a category of undergraduate major. It is it's own category, which is generally only offered at 'Liberal Arts' colleges which offer only that major. However, if you take 'Liberal Arts' to be a 'category of categories', it could potentially include:
https://www.internationalstudent.com/study-liberal-arts/ https://www.internationalstudent.com/study-liberal-arts/
Humanities - English Literature, Modern Languages, History, and Philosophy
Social Sciences - Anthropology, Economics, Geography,
Political Science, and Sociology
Creative Arts - Fine Art, Theatre, Speech, and Creative Writing
Sciences – Astronomy, Biology, Chemistry, and Physics
Ok, nearly any major that existed before 1940 apart from Mathematics and Engineering.
What did the survey say exactly? Well, first of all, from everything I can tell it only includes 4 states, Colorado, Michigan, Texas, and Wisconsin. Not exactly representative, probably, but what schools are included?
School list (for Colorado):
ADAMS STATE COLLEGE
AIMS COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ARAPAHOE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
COLORADO MESA UNIVERSITY
COLORADO MOUNTAIN COLLEGE
COLORADO NORTHWESTERN COMMUNITY COLLEGE
COLORADO SCHOOL OF MINES
COLORADO STATE UNIVERSITY
COLORADO STATE UNIVERSITY - GLOBAL CAMPU
COLORADO STATE UNIVERSITY - PUEBLO
COMMUNITY COLLEGE OF AURORA
COMMUNITY COLLEGE OF DENVER
EMILY GRIFFITH TECHNICAL COLLEGE
FORT LEWIS COLLEGE
FRONT RANGE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
LAMAR COMMUNITY COLLEGE
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
MORGAN COMMUNITY COLLEGE
NORTHEASTERN JUNIOR COLLEGE
OTERO JUNIOR COLLEGE
PICKENS TECHNICAL COLLEGE
PIKES PEAK COMMUNITY COLLEGE
PUEBLO COMMUNITY COLLEGE
RED ROCKS COMMUNITY COLLEGE
TRINIDAD STATE JR COLLEGE
UNIV OF COLORADO AT COLO SPRINGS
UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO DENVER
UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO - BOULDER
UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN COLORADO
WESTERN STATE COLORADO UNIVERSITY
Well, I've never heard of any of those schools, but whatever, maybe most people go to schools I've never heard of so that's not exactly evidence of anything.
I didn't want to go through every school, so I just picked University of Colorado, Denver, since it seems like it's probably one of the bigger schools?
I used https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/nav/jsf/pages/searchresults.xhtml?refresh=t#acsST https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/nav/jsf/pages/searchresu... to compare all the majors. I couldn't find a single non-STEM major that had better incomes than even a single STEM major. I assume this is the dataset he is taking his data from since he links to it.
So I guess what I'm saying is, this article seems to be predicated on a tiny dataset from a few select schools from a few select states, does not include flagship schools, (in fact it seems to only include 3rd and 4th tier schools, no Anne Arbor, Reed, University of Portland, University of Oregon, Rice, UofT Austin, Texas A&M, U of Wisconsin, Lawrence, Milwaukee School of Engineering, Marquette, etc etc etc.
So before you debate 'what this means' you should know that, based on the above, it means nothing, and no general facts can be drawn from it. I couldn't even figure out what methodology he used to come to his conclusions (if any), or even what he means by 'liberal arts' since that's not a category in the data.
All that, and the data I could find completely disagrees with his analysis, and in fact shows the complete opposite.