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> IMO the 2015 MacBook Pro is the best Mac out there, mainly because of its beautiful retina display, perfect weight, and most importantly, a good keyboard. Ye
by jagira 7y ago
> IMO the 2015 MacBook Pro is the best Mac out there, mainly because of its beautiful retina display, perfect weight, and most importantly, a good keyboard.
Yep. 2015 Macbook Pro is the last best mac. Probably this is why refurbished 2015 MBP commands premium over other models.
- agumonkey 7y agoPardon the wild analogy but I think it says something about this era. Star Wars 7 and 8 were already sold cheaper than the original movies on Youtube movies. Why so much "new" is actually worse these days..
- colechristensen 7y agoIt's part of getting older. Not many things quit at their peak. You tend to notice less things which were past their peak when you were growing up and remember things which peaked while you were around. It might have something to do with why people get more conservative as they get older. There's a bias towards thinking things were better before than they are now when people just don't remember the crap from when they were younger and things actually are pretty much the same (or really are generally getting better by most metrics)
- agumonkey 7y agoNono it's not my tastes. I'm speaking about youtube pricing. Even they realize that new sequels don't hold much value, even though to most of their audience (new generations using youtube often) has no reference to favor the past movies from the new.
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- colechristensen 7y agoOh I meant it in a different way, maybe I could rephrase: You have a tendency to notice things getting worse that you personally experience. When you're younger you have had less time to experience something you care about declining than when you're older which leads to a cognitive bias where it seems that things were generally better when you were young. However old you are, there were plenty of things in decline when you were young that you just didn't notice or care about because you never experienced them at their best and are much less likely to experience them. So many people have experienced Star Wars because it's super culturally relevant, but slide down that scale and there will be tons of things your parents saw the decline of that you might not even know existed.
- nnq 7y ago> Why so much "new" is actually worse these days.. New stuff in general is not worse. New versions of old things quite often are! So upgrade your taste and try new things instead of newer versions of the old things you know you like, because with these you're very likely to be disappointed. In this context maybe the answer would be to try something else than a macbook. Tbh, and iPad pro capable of running Xcode and docker would rock for me.
- unicornfinder 7y agoIndeed. I have an iPad Pro that admittedly doesn't see much use because I'm very much tied to my MacBook, but having played with iPadOS I'm blown away by it and I had a very sudden realisation of "So this is where Apple's development efforts have gone!". I can't wait until the day where I can genuinely do some development on an iPad.
- bryanlarsen 7y agoSturgeon's law: 90% of everything is crap. 90% of movies from 1977 were crap, but we only remember the ones that weren't, like the original Star Wars. Comparing all movies of today to the best movies of the past is unfair.
- agumonkey 7y agoIt's not really the same here. Both SW trilogies made rounds of moneys worldwide (ep 7 is in the top 10 I think). But the latest movies, which are brand new, and were somehow successful are already deprecated. It's like processed food, taste doesn't last.
- rm_-rf_slash 7y agoI think they discount the newest movies so they can get as many people to watch them as they can in order to sell them related merchandise. It is Disney Star Wars after all.
- Metus 7y agoRegression to the mean may be part of it. Even for a master of their craft success and quality will depend on random factors beyond skill, so pieces of work following a great one are more likely to be worse than better, assuming skill remains constant.
- gcatalfamo 7y agoI wonder if people at apple know this and what they think on the matter.
- abacadaba 7y ago:waits patiently for input from throw_away6747357: c'mon we won't tell
- amatecha 7y agoThat's funny, because I call the Late 2013 MBP the last best one :) Among other things, it was the last one to feature a physical trackpad click, as opposed to the fake "taptic engine" all-glass trackpad of the 2014 and newer which doesn't physically move when you click (similar to newer iPhones).
- Mistri 7y agoI honestly thought I wouldn't like the fake clicking, but I ended up liking it after I used it for a day!
- jonplackett 7y agoI can never sent to click and drag successfully with the new track pad. Plus it is needlessly big
- dsego 7y agoThe haptic trackpad works beautifully imo, you can click anywhere, there is force click, the clicky sound can be turned on or off, the feedback can be adjusted. And to me it feels real.
- jakobegger 7y agoTo be honest, I actually prefer the fake click of the new trackpads. It feels very real, it's not at all comparable to the taptic feedback on the buttonless iPhones. The fake click feels so real that people don't even realise it's a fake click if you don't tell them. The mechanical trackpads only allowed clicking in the bottom half (since it was a hinge), and in my experience it was unreliable. After a few years, clicks started registering twice, or not at all, etc. The fake click track pad allows clicking everywhere, it lets you configure activation force, and for me it has been working flawlessly every day for years.
- Ensorceled 7y agoMy trackpad stopped clicking one morning and I was worried that maybe battery expansion was keeping it from being pressed down. Then I finally remembered it was haptic feedback and a reboot fixed it. I had completely forgotten it was not a real click.
- bredren 7y agoI actually think it was the fully loaded 11” 2015 MBA. But. Regardless, they don’t make em like they used to.