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I really wish they would move focus back to being more expandable. The way they weld stuff to the mainboard is hot trash. There is no upgrade path for these ne

by heelix 7y ago

I really wish they would move focus back to being more expandable. The way they weld stuff to the mainboard is hot trash. There is no upgrade path for these newer macs. My old 17"? That got a 16G RAM/SSD upgrade with the CD swapped out for a second drive. Added years to its life. I suspect the new 16" version will only have four USB-C port. I got lucky and ended up with a 32G work laptop. I've got enough headroom to run a couple docker containers at the same time. My co-workers stuck with the 16G laptops are really in a tough place. As things stand, I end up stuffing a pile of dongles into my bag as I transition from work to home and back again. It is unfortunate the person who keeps demanding 'thinner' over 'professional' keeps getting listened to. Wish I could find a 16:10 laptop that had expandability.

opencl 7y ago
LG crammed a 17" 16:10 display and 2 NVMe slots + 1 SODIMM slot (with additional 8GB RAM soldered to the motherboard) into a sub-3 pound chassis in the Gram.
- heelix 7y ago
  Oh my god! This is exactly the sort of screen I was looking for.
  - Paperweight 7y ago
    Not so fast :/ LG had to go ruin it with a low-resolution display. (2560x1600 vs. the 15" MacBook Pro's 2880x1800)
    - heelix 7y ago
      That video card is painful too. I'd be happy enough with 2560x1600@17" as it would be a Linux box... I think. I'll have to take a look at one and see how it feels.
    - deleted 7y ago
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    - benbenolson 7y ago
      Is this a joke?
    - mruts 7y ago
      In what world is 2560x1600 on a 15" considered "low" resolution?
  - Baeocystin 7y ago
    Costco has'em on sale right now, too. Check out the in-store display. My boss loved the look and the weight, and bought a couple on the spot. They're really nice to use.
judge2020 7y ago
The upgrade path is always "upgrade the device" and/or "buy a mac pro".
chaostheory 7y ago
No need to beg Apple for expandability anymore on their laptops or desktops. Windows has gotten good enough especially with WSL2. Developers have more options now. I just got tired of waiting for Apple, and gave up when a Mac Pro starts at 6k. People want a headless, expandable iMac that’s affordable, kind of like the old cheese grater Mac Pros. Apple isn’t budging.
- emit_time 7y ago
  “Windows has gotten good enough” As someone who took a job using Windows after 4.5 years away from it, I completely disagree. I hate windows with a passion, and it’s part of the reason I’m looking for a new job. I’m not saying it’s not good enough for some, a lot of things in it still suck.
  - Paperweight 7y ago
    Macs may suck, but Windows sucks even worse.
    - chaostheory 7y ago
      How so?
      - innocentoldguy 7y ago
        Windows isn’t garbage or anything. It’s a decent OS, but for me: 1. I absolutely hate the latest UI changes. Not only are things hard to find and not organized very well, especially in the system settings, but the UI feels jerky and rough compared to MacOS when moving windows around or when the “Are you sure you want to do this?” dialog pops up. 2. I cannot stand working with Windows Explorer, drive letters, and the overly complex tree view. 3. Things that are easy on MacOS (i.e. rotating and cropping pictures, editing and signing PDFs, etc.) are either hard or not supported on Windows. 4. Device driver issues are more frequent on Windows and suck to fix. 5. Windows has a LOT of shitty software for it and it seems that everyone who asks me for help is running that shitty software. 6. I don’t like the cluttered UIs that most Windows applications have; like the Ribbon thing that Office introduced. 7. I don’t like .NET and Visual Studio much, and I don’t like programming for Windows. I prefer Swift and Xcode. Having said that, I do like F# quite a bit. One area where I think Windows really shines is gaming.
innagadadavida 7y ago
On the flip side, this will give software makers to keep the bloat to a minimum.
- ARandomerDude 7y ago
  Professional bloat-maker here. I doubt it. I want my software to be reasonably lightweight but I've literally never thought about what the user's computer upgrade path might be. As long as it runs well on anything newer than 5 years old, I'm happy. This captures enough users without requiring me to go to great pains to get the remaining, much harder hardware/software setups. People may read that and hate it, but the reality is I have deadlines to meet, demanding bosses, and a never ending queue of features and bugfixes. I suspect a lot of folks are in the same boat.
- ratww 7y ago
  Expanding on what the GP said, I hate Docker with a passion. I mean, I know it's useful, but at my previous job I was able to use my vintage 2GB Macbook Air after installing things with brew + rbenv, while everyone else needed 16GB. All it took was a couple hours to setup the local environment. Never had a problem because the environment was different and my app startup times were much smaller.
johnchristopher 7y ago
I have a 5 year old hp 840 g2 that runs a dozen containers without noticable slow downs. 16gb
- deleted 7y ago
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tboyd47 7y ago
It's probably not a single person, but a metric that has become statistically related to revenue.

by heelix 7y ago

opencl 7y ago

LG crammed a 17" 16:10 display and 2 NVMe slots + 1 SODIMM slot (with additional 8GB RAM soldered to the motherboard) into a sub-3 pound chassis in the Gram.

heelix 7y ago
Oh my god! This is exactly the sort of screen I was looking for.
- Paperweight 7y ago
  Not so fast :/ LG had to go ruin it with a low-resolution display. (2560x1600 vs. the 15" MacBook Pro's 2880x1800)
  - heelix 7y ago
    That video card is painful too. I'd be happy enough with 2560x1600@17" as it would be a Linux box... I think. I'll have to take a look at one and see how it feels.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
  - benbenolson 7y ago
    Is this a joke?
  - mruts 7y ago
    In what world is 2560x1600 on a 15" considered "low" resolution?
- Baeocystin 7y ago
  Costco has'em on sale right now, too. Check out the in-store display. My boss loved the look and the weight, and bought a couple on the spot. They're really nice to use.

judge2020 7y ago

The upgrade path is always "upgrade the device" and/or "buy a mac pro".

chaostheory 7y ago

No need to beg Apple for expandability anymore on their laptops or desktops. Windows has gotten good enough especially with WSL2. Developers have more options now. I just got tired of waiting for Apple, and gave up when a Mac Pro starts at 6k. People want a headless, expandable iMac that’s affordable, kind of like the old cheese grater Mac Pros. Apple isn’t budging.

emit_time 7y ago
“Windows has gotten good enough” As someone who took a job using Windows after 4.5 years away from it, I completely disagree. I hate windows with a passion, and it’s part of the reason I’m looking for a new job. I’m not saying it’s not good enough for some, a lot of things in it still suck.
- Paperweight 7y ago
  Macs may suck, but Windows sucks even worse.
  - chaostheory 7y ago
    How so?
    - innocentoldguy 7y ago
      Windows isn’t garbage or anything. It’s a decent OS, but for me: 1. I absolutely hate the latest UI changes. Not only are things hard to find and not organized very well, especially in the system settings, but the UI feels jerky and rough compared to MacOS when moving windows around or when the “Are you sure you want to do this?” dialog pops up. 2. I cannot stand working with Windows Explorer, drive letters, and the overly complex tree view. 3. Things that are easy on MacOS (i.e. rotating and cropping pictures, editing and signing PDFs, etc.) are either hard or not supported on Windows. 4. Device driver issues are more frequent on Windows and suck to fix. 5. Windows has a LOT of shitty software for it and it seems that everyone who asks me for help is running that shitty software. 6. I don’t like the cluttered UIs that most Windows applications have; like the Ribbon thing that Office introduced. 7. I don’t like .NET and Visual Studio much, and I don’t like programming for Windows. I prefer Swift and Xcode. Having said that, I do like F# quite a bit. One area where I think Windows really shines is gaming.

innagadadavida 7y ago

On the flip side, this will give software makers to keep the bloat to a minimum.

ARandomerDude 7y ago
Professional bloat-maker here. I doubt it. I want my software to be reasonably lightweight but I've literally never thought about what the user's computer upgrade path might be. As long as it runs well on anything newer than 5 years old, I'm happy. This captures enough users without requiring me to go to great pains to get the remaining, much harder hardware/software setups. People may read that and hate it, but the reality is I have deadlines to meet, demanding bosses, and a never ending queue of features and bugfixes. I suspect a lot of folks are in the same boat.
ratww 7y ago
Expanding on what the GP said, I hate Docker with a passion. I mean, I know it's useful, but at my previous job I was able to use my vintage 2GB Macbook Air after installing things with brew + rbenv, while everyone else needed 16GB. All it took was a couple hours to setup the local environment. Never had a problem because the environment was different and my app startup times were much smaller.

johnchristopher 7y ago

I have a 5 year old hp 840 g2 that runs a dozen containers without noticable slow downs. 16gb

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tboyd47 7y ago

It's probably not a single person, but a metric that has become statistically related to revenue.