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The only reason the university is worth its tuition is because of the renown that it creates. The fact that rich people enter through legacy is actually why the

The only reason the university is worth its tuition is because of the renown that it creates. The fact that rich people enter through legacy is actually why the diploma is worth more. Much easier for a Harvard candidate to have connections that could lead to a successful angel investment. Once Legacy admissions go away, the value of Harvard my dropped by a large margin. Crazy world but all these things need to be taken into account.

akhilcacharya 7y ago
> Once Legacy admissions go away, the value of Harvard my dropped by a large margin. Sounds great to me! I worked hard to get into my degree program and get my undergrad too and it has negligible worth - honestly, if the same could be said about the HYPSM+ folks we would all be better off.
- mav3rick 7y ago
  Why would we be better off ? Harvard consistently produces well rounded and above average graduates. Most people here aren't comfortable with that thought.
  - akhilcacharya 7y ago
    Their influence needs to be kept in check. The alternative, which is an oligarchy, is un-American. There are millions of tax paying, patriotic, and effective citizens that did not get into HYPSM schools and are overlooked in the media in favor of a few thousand people who have the virtue of a HYPSM+ degree. [0] [0] https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/shut-up-about-harvard/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/shut-up-about-harvard/
    - mav3rick 7y ago
      There will be billions of people doing good work. Many will always be overlooked. So your problem is people from average schools not getting fame ? On average it's the top tier schools that produce top level prize winning / field defining people. Compare the number of those people from NCSU vs an Harvard or an MIT.
      - akhilcacharya 7y ago
        > On average it's the top tier schools that produce top level prize winning / field defining people. I am saying we are not valued. We are thought of as inferior individuals, as you've described several times on HN. I'm honestly sick of it - America was made for everyone, not just the folks judged to be the best in a nebulous definition of "merit".
        mav3rick 7y ago
        How are you not valued ? You yourself said you get 145k TC, is that not valued ? What have you done to deserve to be on the NYTimes or other papers. If you want more accomplishments and recognition then work harder instead of complaining.
        akhilcacharya 7y ago
        Valued by my employer yes, by society apparently no. Besides you did say yourself that it wasn’t impressive and was low. I’ve worked plenty hard in my life and compared to the average top school grad I haven’t achieved much according to the folks on HN.
        mav3rick 7y ago
        You seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder. Also, HN is not what you should measure your life against IMO.

akhilcacharya 7y ago

> Once Legacy admissions go away, the value of Harvard my dropped by a large margin. Sounds great to me! I worked hard to get into my degree program and get my undergrad too and it has negligible worth - honestly, if the same could be said about the HYPSM+ folks we would all be better off.

mav3rick 7y ago
Why would we be better off ? Harvard consistently produces well rounded and above average graduates. Most people here aren't comfortable with that thought.
- akhilcacharya 7y ago
  Their influence needs to be kept in check. The alternative, which is an oligarchy, is un-American. There are millions of tax paying, patriotic, and effective citizens that did not get into HYPSM schools and are overlooked in the media in favor of a few thousand people who have the virtue of a HYPSM+ degree. [0] [0] https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/shut-up-about-harvard/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/shut-up-about-harvard/
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    There will be billions of people doing good work. Many will always be overlooked. So your problem is people from average schools not getting fame ? On average it's the top tier schools that produce top level prize winning / field defining people. Compare the number of those people from NCSU vs an Harvard or an MIT.
    - akhilcacharya 7y ago
      > On average it's the top tier schools that produce top level prize winning / field defining people. I am saying we are not valued. We are thought of as inferior individuals, as you've described several times on HN. I'm honestly sick of it - America was made for everyone, not just the folks judged to be the best in a nebulous definition of "merit".
      - mav3rick 7y ago
        How are you not valued ? You yourself said you get 145k TC, is that not valued ? What have you done to deserve to be on the NYTimes or other papers. If you want more accomplishments and recognition then work harder instead of complaining.
        akhilcacharya 7y ago
        Valued by my employer yes, by society apparently no. Besides you did say yourself that it wasn’t impressive and was low. I’ve worked plenty hard in my life and compared to the average top school grad I haven’t achieved much according to the folks on HN.
        mav3rick 7y ago
        You seem to have a huge chip on your shoulder. Also, HN is not what you should measure your life against IMO.