3 ms·

That was an interesting read. It would seem that Roscosmos has more incentive to re-use booster stages than Tesla does, both from a cost savings and a future cl

That was an interesting read. It would seem that Roscosmos has more incentive to re-use booster stages than Tesla does, both from a cost savings and a future cleanup problem savings. For some reason I find the idea of a chicken coop with a (possibly) titanium metal roof fairly amusing.

mc32 7y ago
The Russians haven’t yet shed their Soviet ways -in many respects and consciousness with respect to the environment is one of them. It’s not a big concern. They don’t care much about it. The aftermath of hypersonic rocket/missile accident in the Arctic is a good example of their disregard in that area.
- juskrey 7y ago
  That "Soviet way" is there for many centuries already..
  - mc32 7y ago
    Well yes but the Soviets developed and created their own belief system/philosophy around manufacturing modernity and a new human being that would serve the comintern ideals.
    - juskrey 7y ago
      Ah, don't listen to what people say, just look at what do they do and how do they live.
- cpursley 7y ago
  I can confirm (I live in Russia for part of the year). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
- growlist 7y ago
  They have so much land - perhaps it gives a different perspective.
- growlist 7y ago
  About 20 years ago in the early days of the web I used to browse websites about nuclear accidents and the like. Needless to say lots of these have disappeared or changed since, and I think some interesting material is probably lost. One of the stories I read concerned two Russian sailors attempting to steal expensive metals from a nuclear device (which thankfully had had the physics package removed). As I recall the story the device was resistant to their attempts at deconstruction, which led to them escalating to employment of a hammer, which led to rapid atomisation of the sailors after the high explosive trigger was activated.
pacetherace 7y ago
Actually, the biggest incentive for SpaceX to reuse the parts was to bring down the costs to compete with the incumbents on pricing after factoring in their R&D costs. The older launch vehicles and their payloads are pretty much standardized. The have little incentive to improve.

mc32 7y ago

The Russians haven’t yet shed their Soviet ways -in many respects and consciousness with respect to the environment is one of them. It’s not a big concern. They don’t care much about it. The aftermath of hypersonic rocket/missile accident in the Arctic is a good example of their disregard in that area.

juskrey 7y ago
That "Soviet way" is there for many centuries already..
- mc32 7y ago
  Well yes but the Soviets developed and created their own belief system/philosophy around manufacturing modernity and a new human being that would serve the comintern ideals.
  - juskrey 7y ago
    Ah, don't listen to what people say, just look at what do they do and how do they live.
cpursley 7y ago
I can confirm (I live in Russia for part of the year). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
growlist 7y ago
They have so much land - perhaps it gives a different perspective.
growlist 7y ago
About 20 years ago in the early days of the web I used to browse websites about nuclear accidents and the like. Needless to say lots of these have disappeared or changed since, and I think some interesting material is probably lost. One of the stories I read concerned two Russian sailors attempting to steal expensive metals from a nuclear device (which thankfully had had the physics package removed). As I recall the story the device was resistant to their attempts at deconstruction, which led to them escalating to employment of a hammer, which led to rapid atomisation of the sailors after the high explosive trigger was activated.

pacetherace 7y ago

Actually, the biggest incentive for SpaceX to reuse the parts was to bring down the costs to compete with the incumbents on pricing after factoring in their R&D costs. The older launch vehicles and their payloads are pretty much standardized. The have little incentive to improve.