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> it ok for a 70 year old man in a position of power to (hypothetically) have sex with a 17 year old girl. Erm, no. Can sex in such circumstances be fully conse

> it ok for a 70 year old man in a position of power to (hypothetically) have sex with a 17 year old girl. Erm, no. Can sex in such circumstances be fully consensual? No, it can’t I provided an example with a government minister in Norway already... The minister in question remains in the government (the allegations are unproven but would easily be enough to destroy a British politician). Clearly two very similar western countries have very different moral stances on sex between consenting adults! With regards most of the rest of your post we are largely in agreement. Except regarding your misunderstanding of RMS's position. I invite you to read what he wrote yourself and revert if you think that is what he actually meant to say! Or to edit your post.

foldr 7y ago
We're both discussing what he wrote. Terje Søviknes seems the closest match to your description. For an adult in a position of power to get a 16 year old drunk and then have sex with them is obviously wrong. It's certainly caused a scandal in Norway: https://exepose.com/2018/02/15/endless-sex-scandals-in-norwegian-politics-can-the-people-in-power-be-trusted/ https://exepose.com/2018/02/15/endless-sex-scandals-in-norwe... You apparently regard the case as one involving "consenting adults", even though you describe the girl as drunk! It does seem that at bottom, the tiny minority of people who think they've found a morally defensible interpretation of RMS's comments are the people who are basically ok with adult men sexually exploiting teenage girls. Or at least, who think it's very important to sharply distinguish these people from "real" rapists. I assume that the politician you are referring to remains in power because the allegations are (you say) unproven.
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- hdfbdtbcdg 7y ago
  > We're both discussing what he wrote. I'm not prepared to discus that further with you until you can justify or retract your libelous interpretation. As for the government minister that is not the one in question. I found the one involving Trine Skei Grande far more comparable https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/a2Wp1M/han-var-17-skei-grande-var-38-naa-forteller-han-sin-historie https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/a2Wp1M/han-var-17-skei.... Even so you will note that the minister you mention can continue to serve as an MP.
- hdfbdtbcdg 7y ago
  What made you pick out the Terje Søviknes case over the Trine Grande case?
  - foldr 7y ago
    So many to choose from! You didn't give a name, and I can't read your mind.
    - hdfbdtbcdg 7y ago
      I said explicitly that the minister in question remained in government, that the teenager in question was 17 and that there was no suggestion of coercion. There was no need to even name names these facts stand on their own.

foldr 7y ago

We're both discussing what he wrote. Terje Søviknes seems the closest match to your description. For an adult in a position of power to get a 16 year old drunk and then have sex with them is obviously wrong. It's certainly caused a scandal in Norway: https://exepose.com/2018/02/15/endless-sex-scandals-in-norwegian-politics-can-the-people-in-power-be-trusted/ https://exepose.com/2018/02/15/endless-sex-scandals-in-norwe... You apparently regard the case as one involving "consenting adults", even though you describe the girl as drunk! It does seem that at bottom, the tiny minority of people who think they've found a morally defensible interpretation of RMS's comments are the people who are basically ok with adult men sexually exploiting teenage girls. Or at least, who think it's very important to sharply distinguish these people from "real" rapists. I assume that the politician you are referring to remains in power because the allegations are (you say) unproven.

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hdfbdtbcdg 7y ago
> We're both discussing what he wrote. I'm not prepared to discus that further with you until you can justify or retract your libelous interpretation. As for the government minister that is not the one in question. I found the one involving Trine Skei Grande far more comparable https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/a2Wp1M/han-var-17-skei-grande-var-38-naa-forteller-han-sin-historie https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/a2Wp1M/han-var-17-skei.... Even so you will note that the minister you mention can continue to serve as an MP.
hdfbdtbcdg 7y ago
What made you pick out the Terje Søviknes case over the Trine Grande case?
- foldr 7y ago
  So many to choose from! You didn't give a name, and I can't read your mind.
  - hdfbdtbcdg 7y ago
    I said explicitly that the minister in question remained in government, that the teenager in question was 17 and that there was no suggestion of coercion. There was no need to even name names these facts stand on their own.