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>oh hey, history might be a valuable lesson for your understanding of ethics. Art and literature might combine with your computer science degree to inspire proj

by lol768 7y ago

>oh hey, history might be a valuable lesson for your understanding of ethics. Art and literature might combine with your computer science degree to inspire projects natural language processing or generative art For what it's worth, this is a very American approach to college. You generally wouldn't spend more than 3 years on an undergrad course as a student in the UK - because you tend to spend the vast majority of time on your chosen degree subject. There's maybe room for one or two optional modules in an unrelated field.

arminiusreturns 7y ago
I think that depends on the country and the type of uni. I have some friends that have been at top notch schools, and I have taken the time to see how they did things, and the trivium and quadrivium seem to be the cornerstones for elite education (which I was trying to self-replicate). That said, it feels like public schools (which are actually private... why this silly naming?) in the UK do this better than private ones, which is why in the UK you spend less time on those things in undergrad and above. In the US I don't think they hardly reference the trivium or quadrivium, but the structure is loosely based on the principle, so because they have lost the reasoning behind it their course load is much more wild and varied, and sometimes unnecessary. This is also my main beef with those who claim we should just do vocational training or very narrow course loads... the benefit of wide but shallow knowledge is large when applied properly. The US just doesn't apply it very properly. One thing the US does do much better, I must say, is the egalitarian culture though, which offers people the opportunity to laterally move in education much more freely.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > That said, it feels like public schools (which are actually private... why this silly naming?) Because of the nine originally-charity schools investigated by the Clarendon Commission, they weren't the two that established that they had constitutions guaranteeing their private character which made them immune to the kind of publicly-directed reorganization the other seven were subjected to under the Public Schools Act. That is, they are "public" in the sense that their basic organization was redirected by the State to correct problems found by a government investigation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Schools_Act_1868 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Schools_Act_1868
devmacrile 7y ago
Possibly because the U.S. provides the "best high school education in the world.. It's just a shame you have to go to college to get it." -- Alan Kay, some anecdote I forget how to locate
- alankay 7y ago
  From the very proper English lady across the table from me at a supper at Douglas Adams' house: "You Americans have the best high school education in the world -- what a pity you have to go to college to get it!"
yitchelle 7y ago
In Australia, most of the technical / science subjects requires four years to reach a Bachelors degree. I think this is the norm for most universities.

by lol768 7y ago

arminiusreturns 7y ago

I think that depends on the country and the type of uni. I have some friends that have been at top notch schools, and I have taken the time to see how they did things, and the trivium and quadrivium seem to be the cornerstones for elite education (which I was trying to self-replicate). That said, it feels like public schools (which are actually private... why this silly naming?) in the UK do this better than private ones, which is why in the UK you spend less time on those things in undergrad and above. In the US I don't think they hardly reference the trivium or quadrivium, but the structure is loosely based on the principle, so because they have lost the reasoning behind it their course load is much more wild and varied, and sometimes unnecessary. This is also my main beef with those who claim we should just do vocational training or very narrow course loads... the benefit of wide but shallow knowledge is large when applied properly. The US just doesn't apply it very properly. One thing the US does do much better, I must say, is the egalitarian culture though, which offers people the opportunity to laterally move in education much more freely.

dragonwriter 7y ago
> That said, it feels like public schools (which are actually private... why this silly naming?) Because of the nine originally-charity schools investigated by the Clarendon Commission, they weren't the two that established that they had constitutions guaranteeing their private character which made them immune to the kind of publicly-directed reorganization the other seven were subjected to under the Public Schools Act. That is, they are "public" in the sense that their basic organization was redirected by the State to correct problems found by a government investigation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Schools_Act_1868 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Schools_Act_1868

devmacrile 7y ago

Possibly because the U.S. provides the "best high school education in the world.. It's just a shame you have to go to college to get it." -- Alan Kay, some anecdote I forget how to locate

alankay 7y ago
From the very proper English lady across the table from me at a supper at Douglas Adams' house: "You Americans have the best high school education in the world -- what a pity you have to go to college to get it!"

yitchelle 7y ago

In Australia, most of the technical / science subjects requires four years to reach a Bachelors degree. I think this is the norm for most universities.