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Over 50k euro price though. You get what you pay for.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
Nitpick: You never get more than you pay for. You can easily get less than you pay for. Edit: Why is this an unpopular opinion? If I offended the fanboys by implying Tesla or Toyota or Apple made overpriced products I would understand but I'm struggling to understand what thought process leads to disagreeing with my statement in the general case.
- jiveturkey 7y ago
  downvotes don't (mostly don't) imply disagreement, except for some hot button topics. which for better or worse this one is. in this case i would tend to think it's appropriate, whether or not they were given for the right reasons. your nitpick only serves to detract from substantive conversation. nitpicks (other than security nits, which tend to be substantive) and typo corrections are highly discouraged here.
- neogodless 7y ago
  A purchase is a transaction between two parties, each with incomplete information. You can certainly get more than you pay for and there are at least two situations where that's true. First, if you have a lot of money, the relative or marginal value of money for you is probably pretty low. You could spend a lot on something, and actually get lots of utility and value from it, exceeding the value of the money. Second, you could just have useful information about the thing that you're purchasing that the seller lacks, or you could have skills or some other ability to extract greater value out of the item you purchase. For example - a property or building that you happen to be able to rent, sell or otherwise turn into a profitable business.
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    Of course there's cases where a sale must be made quickly so you may get the widget for $4 but one could argue that you're bringing $1 of value by being able to make the transaction at that time. If a widget is generally sold for $5 and you can make some amount of that back using the widget doesn't mean you're getting more than you pay for if you pay $5 for it. My coworker is buying a lightly used $7500 Chevy spark. It's a $7500 car for a reason. Most people don't want it because its small, pretty slow and the specs aren't that great. It is a great car for his use case, equal or better than lots of $10k cars. That doesn't mean he's getting more than he's paying for.
    - neogodless 7y ago
      I don't think that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that in any transaction, the value transferred could be more or less for either party. If I go to auction, I can buy something for $1 and sell it later for $100. Did I get more than I paid for? I think so. Because the auction house doesn't want to do the leg work of finding a qualified buyer, they are happy to get $1 instead of dumping the item in the trash, but it's still more valuable than the purchase price. Purchase price does not dictate ultimate value. There are many ways to evaluate the value of something.
- travisjungroth 7y ago
  Nit picking a turn of phrase doesn’t add much to the conversation. You can read the comment you replied to as “but it costs more, and more expensive things tend to be better”.
- triceratops 7y ago
  That's definitely not always true. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/19/american-airlines-aairpass-golden-ticket https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/19/america...
- landryraccoon 7y ago
  What about if I get a product for less than it cost the seller, like moviepass when it was first released, or an uber ride right now?

Nitpick: You never get more than you pay for. You can easily get less than you pay for. Edit: Why is this an unpopular opinion? If I offended the fanboys by implying Tesla or Toyota or Apple made overpriced products I would understand but I'm struggling to understand what thought process leads to disagreeing with my statement in the general case.

jiveturkey 7y ago
downvotes don't (mostly don't) imply disagreement, except for some hot button topics. which for better or worse this one is. in this case i would tend to think it's appropriate, whether or not they were given for the right reasons. your nitpick only serves to detract from substantive conversation. nitpicks (other than security nits, which tend to be substantive) and typo corrections are highly discouraged here.
neogodless 7y ago
A purchase is a transaction between two parties, each with incomplete information. You can certainly get more than you pay for and there are at least two situations where that's true. First, if you have a lot of money, the relative or marginal value of money for you is probably pretty low. You could spend a lot on something, and actually get lots of utility and value from it, exceeding the value of the money. Second, you could just have useful information about the thing that you're purchasing that the seller lacks, or you could have skills or some other ability to extract greater value out of the item you purchase. For example - a property or building that you happen to be able to rent, sell or otherwise turn into a profitable business.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  Of course there's cases where a sale must be made quickly so you may get the widget for $4 but one could argue that you're bringing $1 of value by being able to make the transaction at that time. If a widget is generally sold for $5 and you can make some amount of that back using the widget doesn't mean you're getting more than you pay for if you pay $5 for it. My coworker is buying a lightly used $7500 Chevy spark. It's a $7500 car for a reason. Most people don't want it because its small, pretty slow and the specs aren't that great. It is a great car for his use case, equal or better than lots of $10k cars. That doesn't mean he's getting more than he's paying for.
  - neogodless 7y ago
    I don't think that's what I'm saying. I'm saying that in any transaction, the value transferred could be more or less for either party. If I go to auction, I can buy something for $1 and sell it later for $100. Did I get more than I paid for? I think so. Because the auction house doesn't want to do the leg work of finding a qualified buyer, they are happy to get $1 instead of dumping the item in the trash, but it's still more valuable than the purchase price. Purchase price does not dictate ultimate value. There are many ways to evaluate the value of something.
travisjungroth 7y ago
Nit picking a turn of phrase doesn’t add much to the conversation. You can read the comment you replied to as “but it costs more, and more expensive things tend to be better”.
triceratops 7y ago
That's definitely not always true. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/19/american-airlines-aairpass-golden-ticket https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/19/america...
landryraccoon 7y ago
What about if I get a product for less than it cost the seller, like moviepass when it was first released, or an uber ride right now?