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The cars are not produced at a loss. Each car is profit. The negative cash flow is created by investing heavily in factory expansion like the model 3/Y producti
by jurmous 7y ago
The cars are not produced at a loss. Each car is profit. The negative cash flow is created by investing heavily in factory expansion like the model 3/Y production line and the record time construction of gigafactory 3.
More about profit margins in second quarter report. It seems it is currently 19% per car. https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/1e70a30c-20a7-48b3-a1f6-696a7c517959 https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/1e70a30c-20a7-48b3-a1f6-69...
- gamblor956 7y agoThe cars are not produced at a loss. Each car is profit. Only under magical unicorn fantasy accounting. Under the same accounting standards every other car maker uses (GAAP), Tesla still loses money on each car. From Tesla's own financial report: "excluding regulatory credit revenue, automotive gross margin improved by ~200bp (compared to a decrease of 125bp on a GAAP basis). [emphasis added]
- bryanlarsen 7y ago"Fantasy" number is 19% gross margin. GAAP number is 15% gross margin. Still positive.
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- danhak 7y agoTotally false on both counts. 1) Tesla's GAAP gross margin was (positive) 14.5% for the most recent quarter [https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/1e70a30c-20a7-48b3-a1f6-696a7c517959 https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/1e70a30c-20a7-48b3-a1f6-69...] 2) Breaking out GAAP and non-GAAP figures is totally standard and commonplace among publicly traded companies. Take a look at Ford's Q2 letter, for example, which has a whole page describing why they use Non-GAAP financial measures to supplement GAAP figures [https://s22.q4cdn.com/857684434/files/doc_financials/2019/q2/updated/2Q19-Financial-Release.pdf https://s22.q4cdn.com/857684434/files/doc_financials/2019/q2...]