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Which is why some psychedelic drugs are too much for people because it disables the filters for a period of time. You weren't aware of the pressure of your so

Which is why some psychedelic drugs are too much for people because it disables the filters for a period of time. You weren't aware of the pressure of your socks on your feet until reading sentence.

kempbellt 7y ago
For this reason, I am very selective about using THC. Unless I've also had some alcohol, it'll typically induce anxiety for me. Kudos to those who can enjoy it though.
- heroHACK17 7y ago
  I had the same experience during my high school and college years. THC consumption (with alcohol or without) consistently induced anxiety (sometimes so much as to induce mini panic-attacks). Fast-forward five or so years, and I gave it another shot out of curiosity. Interestingly enough, my experience was starkly different. I guess you could say I experienced the traditional side-effects that I had missed my first time around. What's most notable is the subtle after-glow I would feel days after using THC. I have since been using THC while practicing mindfulness and the benefits have been enumerable! It's quite interesting what role age, set, setting, etc. can have during these experiences.
  - luckydata 7y ago
    Kinda sounds to me you used sativa at first, then switched to indica and that's pretty much exactly how that usually works. They have significantly different "highs" and sativa can feel antsy and uncomfortable for already anxious people.
    - jhedwards 7y ago
      Not necessarily: I always had anxiety issues with cannabis until I tried a pure sativa strain. The problem is that indica gives we weird bodily sensations which trigger my anxiety, whereas sativa only affects my mind. I think the important thing is that people can experiment in a controlled way. It wasn't until cannabis became legal that I could compare strains and figure out what exactly was causing my anxiety.
      - 09bjb 7y ago
        An alternative explanation is "No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." Certainly holds true for me: the experience, it turns out, depends more on where I am in that stage of life than the substance in question. Cannabis is radically different for me now (at 30-something and after several intense psychedelic experiences) than at 19 or 20 when I first tried it. And...I'm not assuming you're a man :)
  - karlshea 7y ago
    If you're enjoying it with mindfulness it might also be good with cardio. A tiny bit before 45 minutes on a bike along with some music really makes the time fly.
    - Bootwizard 7y ago
      I do this myself. Cycling is much more enjoyable this way. Even better with edibles and a long distance ride.
      - karlshea 7y ago
        Very much so! The combination with an endorphin rush is pretty nice afterwards too.
- lukifer 7y ago
  Anecdotally, I find it fascinating that many people find cannabis induces anxiety, while many others use cannabis as a treatment or coping mechanism for anxiety. I'm sure the strain, strength, and exact blend of cannabinoids are relevant factors (and perhaps a bit of placebo/psychosoma based on past experiences), but I suspect if one controlled for all those variables, we'd still see wildly different effects w/r/t anxiety, based on individual brain differences alone.
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  - kempbellt 7y ago
    There are definitely a lot of variables to consider. Method of consumption - I prefer not to smoke things, so I would use edibles. Strain, strength, psychosoma, as you mention. Psychosoma can be affected by location, time of day (light out or dark out), the company you are in, legality, or potential work-related ramifications, etc. I _do not recommend_ this at all, but if you want to have an anxious episode, consuming a 10MG THC edible on an empty stomach, while alone, will likely do it. You may find yourself repeatedly Googling "Am I going to die?!", and then forgetting the answer 10 seconds later, for about 90 minutes. That said, there have been times where I've enjoyed it. Being in a familiar environment, with people I trust, having eaten food, and maybe a drink or two, tends to nullify the anxiety and allow for a relaxing experience. I find similar benefits from meditation though, so I have little reason to use THC these days.
    - ozzmotik 7y ago
      i find it hard to believe that 10mg would do that to me, but that's mostly because I've taken a ~50mg edible (about 1/3 of a 150mg brownie) on an empty stomach and didn't particularly feel super anxious. i certainly was effected, but all in all i ended up finishing that whole brownie and just felt really nice. but i had a fairly strong tolerance at the time and i am a fairly overweight person with a slow metabolism so those things probably contributed. ill have to try again at some point in the future when I'm in better shape and have little-to-no tolerance because that genuinely sounds like a fun time to me. kinda weird but i find experiencing anxiogenic effects and then calming my mind and letting them go to be an extremely enjoyable experience with mind altering substances. huge part of why i used to abuse diphenhydramine regularly, other than seeing my friends the shadow people!
hashberry 7y ago
Especially psilocybin. "Hero" or "ego-death" doses are fascinating. Filters/barriers break down. Each room in my house had a special vibration/energy based on how I spent my time there. Artwork had deep meanings not previously noticed. Projected families and friends onto chairs in my empty dining room and had conversations with them (with cussing & sobbing). Started to think about my ancestors and had "past life" schizophrenic experiences based on memories and impressions of history. Felt powerful daemonic energy, radiating from body out of my hands, and felt amazed by the incredible ability humans have to create & destroy. THC/cannabis is too much of a recreational drug... though it's useful for taking the edge off at the end of a psilocybin trip.
- Covzire 7y ago
  Not to take anything away from your experience, but I've noticed that in reading reports from various people taking larger trips, I get this impression that a big part of the experience is indistinguishable from schizophrenia. What I mean is nobody can properly define their terms in any commonly shared way, people believe and see things they can't possibly share in a relatable way. Not everything of course, but your feeling of your hands strikes me as something you certainly felt, but likely wasn't anything more than an emotional experience that your brain and consciousness imagined, rather than deduced from logic. But since it felt so real, it felt so 'true' but likely wasn't. I could be wrong though.
  - mikelyons 7y ago
    But notice that logic is nothing more than an emotional experience that your consciousness imagined, and so is your brain, brains don't actually exist.
  - TheAdamAndChe 7y ago
    According to Wikipedia's definition , psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not. Speaking as someone who has taken a very large dose of LSD, the boundary between alerted consciousness(or consciousness at all) and psychosis is very blurry. All of human experience is merely an interpretation of our stimuli, and one person's perception of reality is likely to be quite different from other people. A key difference between LSD-indused psychosis and schizophrenia is timespan. For most people, the psychosis fades and they just become normal people again. (some people do trigger schizophrenia that persists after their trips, though it's rare) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis?wprov=sfla1
chippy 7y ago
There was some research done on psychedelic hallucinations which revealed that there is actually less sensory input and that so filters are not disabled - they just have less work as there is less input. With less input the brain hallucinates to fill in the gaps. It may feel like the doors are being opened to allow the outside in but hallucinogens close the outside off. Your heightened perception of external things when on psychedelics are hallucinations occurring in your brain and not some objective information being transmitted from outside
BAReF00t 7y ago
What socks? :D Try heart beat, breathing, blood flowing through you, your intestines working, air going through hairs and across your snin, saliva being squeezed out of your mouth's glands, your teeth and tongue touching everything in there, any speck of dust under your finger and toe nails, … did I miss anything? As somebody who is way more aware of these things way too often: Not fun!
g0bananas 7y ago
i have horrible adhd (diagnosed, both as a child and as an adult) and i think i already don't have very many filters... And I liked the small amount of shrooms i've had... but I do worry if i try it more then i'll end up without any filters!

Which is why some psychedelic drugs are too much for people because it disables the filters for a period of time. You weren't aware of the pressure of your socks on your feet until reading sentence.

kempbellt 7y ago

For this reason, I am very selective about using THC. Unless I've also had some alcohol, it'll typically induce anxiety for me. Kudos to those who can enjoy it though.

heroHACK17 7y ago
I had the same experience during my high school and college years. THC consumption (with alcohol or without) consistently induced anxiety (sometimes so much as to induce mini panic-attacks). Fast-forward five or so years, and I gave it another shot out of curiosity. Interestingly enough, my experience was starkly different. I guess you could say I experienced the traditional side-effects that I had missed my first time around. What's most notable is the subtle after-glow I would feel days after using THC. I have since been using THC while practicing mindfulness and the benefits have been enumerable! It's quite interesting what role age, set, setting, etc. can have during these experiences.
- luckydata 7y ago
  Kinda sounds to me you used sativa at first, then switched to indica and that's pretty much exactly how that usually works. They have significantly different "highs" and sativa can feel antsy and uncomfortable for already anxious people.
  - jhedwards 7y ago
    Not necessarily: I always had anxiety issues with cannabis until I tried a pure sativa strain. The problem is that indica gives we weird bodily sensations which trigger my anxiety, whereas sativa only affects my mind. I think the important thing is that people can experiment in a controlled way. It wasn't until cannabis became legal that I could compare strains and figure out what exactly was causing my anxiety.
    - 09bjb 7y ago
      An alternative explanation is "No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." Certainly holds true for me: the experience, it turns out, depends more on where I am in that stage of life than the substance in question. Cannabis is radically different for me now (at 30-something and after several intense psychedelic experiences) than at 19 or 20 when I first tried it. And...I'm not assuming you're a man :)
- karlshea 7y ago
  If you're enjoying it with mindfulness it might also be good with cardio. A tiny bit before 45 minutes on a bike along with some music really makes the time fly.
  - Bootwizard 7y ago
    I do this myself. Cycling is much more enjoyable this way. Even better with edibles and a long distance ride.
    - karlshea 7y ago
      Very much so! The combination with an endorphin rush is pretty nice afterwards too.
lukifer 7y ago
Anecdotally, I find it fascinating that many people find cannabis induces anxiety, while many others use cannabis as a treatment or coping mechanism for anxiety. I'm sure the strain, strength, and exact blend of cannabinoids are relevant factors (and perhaps a bit of placebo/psychosoma based on past experiences), but I suspect if one controlled for all those variables, we'd still see wildly different effects w/r/t anxiety, based on individual brain differences alone.
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- kempbellt 7y ago
  There are definitely a lot of variables to consider. Method of consumption - I prefer not to smoke things, so I would use edibles. Strain, strength, psychosoma, as you mention. Psychosoma can be affected by location, time of day (light out or dark out), the company you are in, legality, or potential work-related ramifications, etc. I _do not recommend_ this at all, but if you want to have an anxious episode, consuming a 10MG THC edible on an empty stomach, while alone, will likely do it. You may find yourself repeatedly Googling "Am I going to die?!", and then forgetting the answer 10 seconds later, for about 90 minutes. That said, there have been times where I've enjoyed it. Being in a familiar environment, with people I trust, having eaten food, and maybe a drink or two, tends to nullify the anxiety and allow for a relaxing experience. I find similar benefits from meditation though, so I have little reason to use THC these days.
  - ozzmotik 7y ago
    i find it hard to believe that 10mg would do that to me, but that's mostly because I've taken a ~50mg edible (about 1/3 of a 150mg brownie) on an empty stomach and didn't particularly feel super anxious. i certainly was effected, but all in all i ended up finishing that whole brownie and just felt really nice. but i had a fairly strong tolerance at the time and i am a fairly overweight person with a slow metabolism so those things probably contributed. ill have to try again at some point in the future when I'm in better shape and have little-to-no tolerance because that genuinely sounds like a fun time to me. kinda weird but i find experiencing anxiogenic effects and then calming my mind and letting them go to be an extremely enjoyable experience with mind altering substances. huge part of why i used to abuse diphenhydramine regularly, other than seeing my friends the shadow people!

hashberry 7y ago

Especially psilocybin. "Hero" or "ego-death" doses are fascinating. Filters/barriers break down. Each room in my house had a special vibration/energy based on how I spent my time there. Artwork had deep meanings not previously noticed. Projected families and friends onto chairs in my empty dining room and had conversations with them (with cussing & sobbing). Started to think about my ancestors and had "past life" schizophrenic experiences based on memories and impressions of history. Felt powerful daemonic energy, radiating from body out of my hands, and felt amazed by the incredible ability humans have to create & destroy. THC/cannabis is too much of a recreational drug... though it's useful for taking the edge off at the end of a psilocybin trip.

Covzire 7y ago
Not to take anything away from your experience, but I've noticed that in reading reports from various people taking larger trips, I get this impression that a big part of the experience is indistinguishable from schizophrenia. What I mean is nobody can properly define their terms in any commonly shared way, people believe and see things they can't possibly share in a relatable way. Not everything of course, but your feeling of your hands strikes me as something you certainly felt, but likely wasn't anything more than an emotional experience that your brain and consciousness imagined, rather than deduced from logic. But since it felt so real, it felt so 'true' but likely wasn't. I could be wrong though.
- mikelyons 7y ago
  But notice that logic is nothing more than an emotional experience that your consciousness imagined, and so is your brain, brains don't actually exist.
- TheAdamAndChe 7y ago
  According to Wikipedia's definition , psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind that results in difficulties determining what is real and what is not. Speaking as someone who has taken a very large dose of LSD, the boundary between alerted consciousness(or consciousness at all) and psychosis is very blurry. All of human experience is merely an interpretation of our stimuli, and one person's perception of reality is likely to be quite different from other people. A key difference between LSD-indused psychosis and schizophrenia is timespan. For most people, the psychosis fades and they just become normal people again. (some people do trigger schizophrenia that persists after their trips, though it's rare) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis?wprov=sfla1

chippy 7y ago

There was some research done on psychedelic hallucinations which revealed that there is actually less sensory input and that so filters are not disabled - they just have less work as there is less input. With less input the brain hallucinates to fill in the gaps. It may feel like the doors are being opened to allow the outside in but hallucinogens close the outside off. Your heightened perception of external things when on psychedelics are hallucinations occurring in your brain and not some objective information being transmitted from outside

BAReF00t 7y ago

What socks? :D Try heart beat, breathing, blood flowing through you, your intestines working, air going through hairs and across your snin, saliva being squeezed out of your mouth's glands, your teeth and tongue touching everything in there, any speck of dust under your finger and toe nails, … did I miss anything? As somebody who is way more aware of these things way too often: Not fun!

g0bananas 7y ago

i have horrible adhd (diagnosed, both as a child and as an adult) and i think i already don't have very many filters... And I liked the small amount of shrooms i've had... but I do worry if i try it more then i'll end up without any filters!