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While in the military I got the distinct pleasure of driving a soldier with a dislocated shoulder to the local hospital. The soldier in great pain was cursing t

While in the military I got the distinct pleasure of driving a soldier with a dislocated shoulder to the local hospital. The soldier in great pain was cursing the entire trip. After a short visit to the hospital, I drove the soldier back untreated. The hospital refused to treat him because he was so vulgar. My point being. Yes there are limits to what emergency response should put up with.

nosianu2 7y ago
First, so you are fine in letting somebody else(!!!) die? Because the person calling 911 is not the person that is dying. Even if it was the same person - the death penalty for words? Really now? Second, your story does not support your point, it just adds words to it with no apparent relevance.
thaumasiotes 7y ago
> The soldier in great pain was cursing the entire trip. After a short visit to the hospital, I drove the soldier back untreated. The hospital refused to treat him because he was so vulgar. This is hard to imagine, actually. An incredible dereliction of duty by the hospital. > Yes there are limits to what emergency response should put up with. And your conclusion, as applied to the context you provide, is clearly wrong. Of course there are limits to what emergency response should put up with, but that doesn't even come close.
bilbo0s 7y ago
>The hospital refused to treat him because he was so vulgar. Was this a delivery facility in the USA? Because if so, I'm 99.999% sure they broke the law. Just by way of example, recently, in one of the hospitals my S.O. runs, a gentlemen was cursing and racially berating a black nurse for attempting to treat his wife. Extreme vulgarity. (They had come in because the wife was having a baby. So emergency situation.) The hospital simply asked that the husband leave, and made sure that no black, hispanic or asian caregivers treated the wife. Why? Because it's unethical not to treat the sick, it's illegal in most states, and it will get you into serious problems with medical review boards everywhere in the US. All that then starts impacting things like Joint Commission, etc etc etc. Of course, if the facility is already full and operating at legal capacity, that's one thing. But it doesn't sound like that's what happened in your anecdote.
- SapporoChris 7y ago
  No it was not a USA hospital. Does it make a difference that it was in a foreign country?
  - bilbo0s 7y ago
    With respect to the legal ramifications of refusing service to a soldier? Yeah. It's pretty safe to say there would be a difference in response from the authorities.

nosianu2 7y ago

First, so you are fine in letting somebody else(!!!) die? Because the person calling 911 is not the person that is dying. Even if it was the same person - the death penalty for words? Really now? Second, your story does not support your point, it just adds words to it with no apparent relevance.

thaumasiotes 7y ago

> The soldier in great pain was cursing the entire trip. After a short visit to the hospital, I drove the soldier back untreated. The hospital refused to treat him because he was so vulgar. This is hard to imagine, actually. An incredible dereliction of duty by the hospital. > Yes there are limits to what emergency response should put up with. And your conclusion, as applied to the context you provide, is clearly wrong. Of course there are limits to what emergency response should put up with, but that doesn't even come close.

bilbo0s 7y ago

>The hospital refused to treat him because he was so vulgar. Was this a delivery facility in the USA? Because if so, I'm 99.999% sure they broke the law. Just by way of example, recently, in one of the hospitals my S.O. runs, a gentlemen was cursing and racially berating a black nurse for attempting to treat his wife. Extreme vulgarity. (They had come in because the wife was having a baby. So emergency situation.) The hospital simply asked that the husband leave, and made sure that no black, hispanic or asian caregivers treated the wife. Why? Because it's unethical not to treat the sick, it's illegal in most states, and it will get you into serious problems with medical review boards everywhere in the US. All that then starts impacting things like Joint Commission, etc etc etc. Of course, if the facility is already full and operating at legal capacity, that's one thing. But it doesn't sound like that's what happened in your anecdote.

SapporoChris 7y ago
No it was not a USA hospital. Does it make a difference that it was in a foreign country?
- bilbo0s 7y ago
  With respect to the legal ramifications of refusing service to a soldier? Yeah. It's pretty safe to say there would be a difference in response from the authorities.