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Shafties come around about as often as airless tires — and stay just as long, too: Saint Sheldon says “just use a chain case”, and as usual, he’s spot on: Sha
by hprotagonist 7y ago
Shafties come around about as often as airless tires — and stay just as long, too:
Saint Sheldon says “just use a chain case”, and as usual, he’s spot on:
Shaft drive was briefly popular around 1900, and occasional attempts are made to revive the design. Unfortunately, shaft drive turns out to have more problems than advantages.
A shaft drive requires heavier frame construction around the bevel gears to maintain their precise alignment under load. The drive system is heavier and less efficient than a good chain drive.
For reasons of clearance, the bevel gears of a shaft drive bicycle must be considerably smaller than the typical sprockets used with a chain drive. The smaller size of the gears causes an increase in the stresses on the whole support system for the shaft. This problem is exacerbated because the stresses from the shaft drive are not perpendicular the triangulated structure of a bicycle frame, and so are not well-resisted. .
Most of the advantages touted by proponents of shaft drive are only advantages compared with open-chain, derailer gear systems. Many proponents of shaft drive use specious (if not dishonest) arguments "comparing" shaft drive systems with derailer gear systems. Any such comparisons are meaningless, it's like comparing apples and locomotives.
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Shaft drive proponents also often compare sealed, enclosed shaft drive systems with open, exposed chain drive systems. This is also a misleading comparison. All of the advantages claimed for shaft drive can be realized by the use of a chain case.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_sa-o.html
Shaft-driven motorcycles are a whole other story.
- t0mas88 7y ago> The drive system is heavier and less efficient than a good chain drive They claim 99.2% efficiency in the video over 97% for the top-performing chain driven versions. Do you have any data on chain driven systems that are better than what they compared it to now?
- akvadrako 7y agoAre you talking about an enclosed derailleur system? I've never seen that. Or are you suggesting we use hub gears? Because those are significantly lower efficiency. Only Rohloff is really competitive but it's still around a 5% efficiency loss compared to derailleurs.
- romdev 7y agoThose aren't bevel gears in the video. Sheldon is talking about an older design that had cone-shaped gears which would suffer from the design flaws he mentions.
- foxyv 7y agoThis shaft drive uses bearings for the contact between "bevel gears", making it a LOT more efficient.