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> I guess I'm just not sure what her work is that isn't already being done by others. Making politicians uncomfortable about their careers. Lots of other peopl

> I guess I'm just not sure what her work is that isn't already being done by others. Making politicians uncomfortable about their careers. Lots of other people have tried and failed. She's succeeding.

fwn 7y ago
> Making politicians uncomfortable about their careers. While this could be true on some deeper level I don't think that this specific event is a good one to base such an assessment on. Being invited to talk to the UN is a great honor from the political establishment and her speech got interrupted by applause several times. I only watched the speech itself, but I have difficulties to see evidence that people there were uncomfortable. edit: This appears to be very controversial? Would someone care to elaborate?
- happytoexplain 7y ago
  The gravity of the topic and its near-binary political divide are the main reasons - but this is true of all climate politics, not just this case.
pnako 7y ago
How exactly is she succeeding? Macron gave up on petrol tax increases after months of riots by yellow vests; I bet he'll keep responding to them and not to Greta.
- dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
  I don't understand why you're downvoted. Everybody keeps putting the blame on politicians. But they're not independent, they need to listen to the people. Many people really don't care about something they don't believe is related to them in any way. They do care, however, about their money, expenses, jobs. These are the people that need to be educated so that they get more realistic. And the job of politicians is to give them a good alternative.
- ocschwar 7y ago
  Germany, meanwhile, just voted to increase the size of the Green party in the EU parliament. And even the CDU is caucusing with the Greens now. Macron's yellow vest capitulation was what, 4 months ago?
  - pnako 7y ago
    Germany is an interesting case to say the least. After decades of campaigning by the Greens, and right in the middle of this global warming crisis, they closed nuclear power plants and started up coal plants again... But, fortunately, the coal plants were only temporary; Germany is now building a big pipeline to get natural gas from Russia. As for France, there is not much more to do; the country's energy mix is largely nuclear + hydro and the industry has long left the country anyway. Macron could try to promote insect burgers, as they are trying in other countries, by in that case he'll get protests even bigger than the yellow vests :)

fwn 7y ago

> Making politicians uncomfortable about their careers. While this could be true on some deeper level I don't think that this specific event is a good one to base such an assessment on. Being invited to talk to the UN is a great honor from the political establishment and her speech got interrupted by applause several times. I only watched the speech itself, but I have difficulties to see evidence that people there were uncomfortable. edit: This appears to be very controversial? Would someone care to elaborate?

happytoexplain 7y ago
The gravity of the topic and its near-binary political divide are the main reasons - but this is true of all climate politics, not just this case.

pnako 7y ago

How exactly is she succeeding? Macron gave up on petrol tax increases after months of riots by yellow vests; I bet he'll keep responding to them and not to Greta.

dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
I don't understand why you're downvoted. Everybody keeps putting the blame on politicians. But they're not independent, they need to listen to the people. Many people really don't care about something they don't believe is related to them in any way. They do care, however, about their money, expenses, jobs. These are the people that need to be educated so that they get more realistic. And the job of politicians is to give them a good alternative.
ocschwar 7y ago
Germany, meanwhile, just voted to increase the size of the Green party in the EU parliament. And even the CDU is caucusing with the Greens now. Macron's yellow vest capitulation was what, 4 months ago?
- pnako 7y ago
  Germany is an interesting case to say the least. After decades of campaigning by the Greens, and right in the middle of this global warming crisis, they closed nuclear power plants and started up coal plants again... But, fortunately, the coal plants were only temporary; Germany is now building a big pipeline to get natural gas from Russia. As for France, there is not much more to do; the country's energy mix is largely nuclear + hydro and the industry has long left the country anyway. Macron could try to promote insect burgers, as they are trying in other countries, by in that case he'll get protests even bigger than the yellow vests :)