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Beautiful? There's a reason why it got the name, it looks like a trashcan. And the old mac pro is filled with garbage(how fitting, right?). If it was any good t

Beautiful? There's a reason why it got the name, it looks like a trashcan. And the old mac pro is filled with garbage(how fitting, right?). If it was any good then apple would have stuck to it, but it was garbage, so they didn't. Now we have the new mac pro, and it's a big step up from the trashcan.

ryanlol 7y ago
Yes, and lots of very smart designers have put lots of time over many decades into making trashcans look good. The apple trashcan certainly looks vastly better than other commercially available workstations.
- Mindwipe 7y ago
  > The apple trashcan certainly looks vastly better than other commercially available workstations. Not really, when given the tendency of them to roll around when being transported in production environments, they tend to end up bolted within wooden boxes with little wheels on the bottom. There's a reason Apple listened and put wheels on the new one.
  - cjaybo 7y ago
    To be fair, the machine's tendency to roll around during transport is irrelevant to the claim that it looks better than its competitors.
    - Mindwipe 7y ago
      I meant more that it doesn't look better if it's inside a plywood box.
- throwaway744678 7y ago
  > The apple trashcan certainly looks vastly better than other commercially available *trashcans.
  - ryanlol 7y ago
    I don’t think anyone who’s ever shopped for designer trashcans would agree with this :P
- nickpeterson 7y ago
  It's a shame really, I feel like we've lost something from the years of SGI workstations that looked like they came straight from the future.
  - dzhiurgis 7y ago
    You mean bright LED's and transformer-like mods? I don't think so, seems like ALL gaming PC's are like that.
    - dagw 7y ago
      SGI workstations had hardly any lights. Their essential distinguishing feature where that they sometimes had slightly rounded corners and came in 'fun' colors. Kind of like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Tezro#/media/File:Silicone_Graphics_SGI_Tezro_Workstation.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Tezro#/media/File:Silicone... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Octane#/media/File:SgiOctane.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Octane#/media/File:SgiOcta... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_O2#/media/File:Silicon_Graphics_O2_Plus.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_O2#/media/File:Silicon_Gra...
      - mrpippy 7y ago
        The Tezro and Octane both have prominent power-on lights, but I think they're tasteful and cool.
      - olyjohn 7y ago
        I mean... they definitely look like they're from the 90's future.
      - mrguyorama 7y ago
        Those unfortunately now just remind me of the Hot Wheels PC https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/azdp7i/hot_wheels_pc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/azdp7i/hot_wh... I'd rather see more like the SGI Indy workstation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indy#/media/File:Silicon_Graphics_Indy.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indy#/media/File:Silicon_G...
m-p-3 7y ago
From trashcan to cheese grater.
- dylan604 7y ago
  You mean back to cheese grater. The cheese grater name was applied to the previous generations before the trash can.
  - snowwrestler 7y ago
    I don't think Apple has said so publicly, but it seems pretty obvious that they knew about that nickname and decided to lean into it with the new model. The new one really looks like a cheese grater, even more than the towers before the trash can.
ascagnel_ 7y ago
Eh, it was designed for a different system configuration. Apple was betting on multi-GPU architectures when they designed that thing in 2012/2013, but then tech didn't really follow that path. The CPUs and multiple GPUs put out (relatively) equal heat, so they could make the single, big cooler work. But when the world went back to a single, big, hot GPU, it pushed things _just_ out of whack enough that it wasn't worthwhile to continue down that path.
- Someone1234 7y ago
  I think that is a little too generous. It was a poor design because it didn't take into account the thermals of the hardware it was sold containing. It throttled its graphics cards from the start but also got worse as dust/age set in. It couldn't be upgraded or fixed because they chose appearance over practicality. It was, is, and will always be the "garbage can." It has nothing to do with the industry's direction, it was poor as-sold.

ryanlol 7y ago

Yes, and lots of very smart designers have put lots of time over many decades into making trashcans look good. The apple trashcan certainly looks vastly better than other commercially available workstations.

Mindwipe 7y ago
> The apple trashcan certainly looks vastly better than other commercially available workstations. Not really, when given the tendency of them to roll around when being transported in production environments, they tend to end up bolted within wooden boxes with little wheels on the bottom. There's a reason Apple listened and put wheels on the new one.
- cjaybo 7y ago
  To be fair, the machine's tendency to roll around during transport is irrelevant to the claim that it looks better than its competitors.
  - Mindwipe 7y ago
    I meant more that it doesn't look better if it's inside a plywood box.
throwaway744678 7y ago
> The apple trashcan certainly looks vastly better than other commercially available *trashcans.
- ryanlol 7y ago
  I don’t think anyone who’s ever shopped for designer trashcans would agree with this :P
nickpeterson 7y ago
It's a shame really, I feel like we've lost something from the years of SGI workstations that looked like they came straight from the future.
- dzhiurgis 7y ago
  You mean bright LED's and transformer-like mods? I don't think so, seems like ALL gaming PC's are like that.
  - dagw 7y ago
    SGI workstations had hardly any lights. Their essential distinguishing feature where that they sometimes had slightly rounded corners and came in 'fun' colors. Kind of like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Tezro#/media/File:Silicone_Graphics_SGI_Tezro_Workstation.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Tezro#/media/File:Silicone... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Octane#/media/File:SgiOctane.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Octane#/media/File:SgiOcta... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_O2#/media/File:Silicon_Graphics_O2_Plus.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_O2#/media/File:Silicon_Gra...
    - mrpippy 7y ago
      The Tezro and Octane both have prominent power-on lights, but I think they're tasteful and cool.
    - olyjohn 7y ago
      I mean... they definitely look like they're from the 90's future.
    - mrguyorama 7y ago
      Those unfortunately now just remind me of the Hot Wheels PC https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/azdp7i/hot_wheels_pc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/azdp7i/hot_wh... I'd rather see more like the SGI Indy workstation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indy#/media/File:Silicon_Graphics_Indy.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indy#/media/File:Silicon_G...

m-p-3 7y ago

From trashcan to cheese grater.

dylan604 7y ago
You mean back to cheese grater. The cheese grater name was applied to the previous generations before the trash can.
- snowwrestler 7y ago
  I don't think Apple has said so publicly, but it seems pretty obvious that they knew about that nickname and decided to lean into it with the new model. The new one really looks like a cheese grater, even more than the towers before the trash can.

ascagnel_ 7y ago

Eh, it was designed for a different system configuration. Apple was betting on multi-GPU architectures when they designed that thing in 2012/2013, but then tech didn't really follow that path. The CPUs and multiple GPUs put out (relatively) equal heat, so they could make the single, big cooler work. But when the world went back to a single, big, hot GPU, it pushed things _just_ out of whack enough that it wasn't worthwhile to continue down that path.

Someone1234 7y ago
I think that is a little too generous. It was a poor design because it didn't take into account the thermals of the hardware it was sold containing. It throttled its graphics cards from the start but also got worse as dust/age set in. It couldn't be upgraded or fixed because they chose appearance over practicality. It was, is, and will always be the "garbage can." It has nothing to do with the industry's direction, it was poor as-sold.