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>>I'm familiar with the holocaust. Doesn't look like it. >>I'm not following how normal (census, social security etc) government people registries are connect
by kamaal 7y ago
>>I'm familiar with the holocaust.
Doesn't look like it.
>>I'm not following how normal (census, social security etc) government people registries are connected to the detention centers, much less to the holocaust.
Because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws
On April 12, 1933, the German government announced plans to conduct a long-delayed national census.[2]:54 The project was particularly important to the Nazis as a mechanism for the identification of Jews, Gypsies, and other ethnic groups deemed undesirable by the regime. Dehomag offered to assist the German government in its task of ethnic identification, concentrating upon the 41 million residents of Prussia.[2]:55 This activity was not only countenanced by Thomas Watson and IBM in America, Black argues, but was actively encouraged and financially supported, with Watson himself traveling to Germany in October 1933 and the company ramping up its investment in its German subsidiary from 400,000 to 7,000,000 Reichsmark—about $1 million.[2]:60 This injection of American capital allowed Dehomag to purchase land in Berlin and to construct IBM's first factory in Germany, Black charges, thereby "tooling up for what it correctly saw as a massive financial relationship with the Hitler regime".[2]:60
They even bought in state of the art technology of the day to track all those people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
Also...
Holocaust didn't start at the concentration camps.
It started way earlier. It's not easy to convince ordinary good people like you to support gassing millions of people. The Nazis had to first build a case(propaganda, brainwashing, racial pride, internal enemies, traitors etc etc kind of trash), then the filters(list(registers) of people whom to gas), processes, logistics and infrastructure to execute a project of that horrific scale.
In this case there is an explicit intent in the form of citizenship amendment bill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Amendment_Bill_2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Amendment_Bill_201... and then nationwide NRC and camps as to what should be done. And the whole surrounding social case of lynchings and pogroms.
- alkonaut 7y ago> > I'm not following how normal (census, social security etc) government people registries are connected to the detention centers, much less to the holocaust. > Because https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws You still not argued why registers of people in a country are a precursor to ethnic cleansing. Pointing to the nuremberg laws wikipedia page doesn't really constitute an argument. There is something here that you think is obviously bad about this law/register, but that you haven't told me. Something that makes you connect the dot between a list of people and the Nuremberg laws. Is the problem that the register contains ethnic/religious info (if it does?)? I agree that's nothing that necessarily belongs in a register. Also of course it can't exclude/include based on traits such as ethnicity/religion. It needs to be a register of everyone.