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We also need to start seeing advertising as a way for publishers/performers/makers to cut a slice of benefit from corporate profits. If we remove advertising ev

We also need to start seeing advertising as a way for publishers/performers/makers to cut a slice of benefit from corporate profits. If we remove advertising everywhere, corporates are just going to seek non-media ways to market , and the whole mediascape will lose.

throwawawathrow 7y ago
As far as I remember there was an Internet without ads. I don't think we need literal garbage stimuli for media to thrive.
- buboard 7y ago
  When?
  - Intermernet 7y ago
    Not that long ago. When I was in university in 1996 there were almost no ads. When I left university in 1999 there were a lot more. The quality of content didn't really increase in that time. Right now there are youtube channels that don't monetize, and have good content. There are soundcloud profiles, blogs and short stories that have no ads. Most of the advertised internet is garbage, but it's also by far the most popular, due to the ads. Advertising skews people's views of worthiness, and makes a mockery of honest recommendations. That's literally what it was invented to do!
    - buboard 7y ago
      That content is still there, with no ads. You can limit yourself to academic institution websites if you want.
      - brewdad 7y ago
        Funny enough. Every time I visit my favored academic institution's athletics department website, I get asked to turn off my ad blocker.
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cwkoss 7y ago
Sounds like a net positive to me. Media living in fear of offending advertisers limits the range of acceptable discourse and causes it to slant corporatist.
- buboard 7y ago
  nah , ad-supported media are invariably more diverse. Fear of offending subscribers leads to much more self-censorship
  - cwkoss 7y ago
    Ad supported media tends to be much more "clickbaity", and I don't think self-censorship to avoid offending corporations is healthy for society.
    - buboard 7y ago
      being clickbaity and being diverse are orthogonal

throwawawathrow 7y ago

As far as I remember there was an Internet without ads. I don't think we need literal garbage stimuli for media to thrive.

buboard 7y ago
When?
- Intermernet 7y ago
  Not that long ago. When I was in university in 1996 there were almost no ads. When I left university in 1999 there were a lot more. The quality of content didn't really increase in that time. Right now there are youtube channels that don't monetize, and have good content. There are soundcloud profiles, blogs and short stories that have no ads. Most of the advertised internet is garbage, but it's also by far the most popular, due to the ads. Advertising skews people's views of worthiness, and makes a mockery of honest recommendations. That's literally what it was invented to do!
  - buboard 7y ago
    That content is still there, with no ads. You can limit yourself to academic institution websites if you want.
    - brewdad 7y ago
      Funny enough. Every time I visit my favored academic institution's athletics department website, I get asked to turn off my ad blocker.

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cwkoss 7y ago

Sounds like a net positive to me. Media living in fear of offending advertisers limits the range of acceptable discourse and causes it to slant corporatist.

buboard 7y ago
nah , ad-supported media are invariably more diverse. Fear of offending subscribers leads to much more self-censorship
- cwkoss 7y ago
  Ad supported media tends to be much more "clickbaity", and I don't think self-censorship to avoid offending corporations is healthy for society.
  - buboard 7y ago
    being clickbaity and being diverse are orthogonal