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Citation for that last paragraph? All I've seen is a shrinking coal industry leaving workers unpaid for their last month on the job[1], 25% tariffs slapped on

Citation for that last paragraph? All I've seen is a shrinking coal industry leaving workers unpaid for their last month on the job[1], 25% tariffs slapped on our hardware imports [2] (causing a 30% drop in our sales) and kids being killed by Customs and Border Protection [3]. None of this is good for the USA or my fellow American 1 - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/us/kentucky-coal-miners.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/us/kentucky-coal-miners.h... 2 - https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2019/08/07/the-long-term-impact-of-us-tariffs-on-china/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2019/08/07/the-long-term-im... 3 - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/20/migrant-child-death-us-border-control-latest https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/20/migrant-chil...

codeisawesome 7y ago
Wish you'd asked for a citation for the whole dang comment. It's the exact kind of "sweet tasting" vitriol that has been sending people with a certain kind of persona into a feeding frenzy in countries all over the fucking planet. This phenomenon is a testament to how susceptible our collective amygdalae are to narrative manipulation. Doesn't matter how many historical precedents are exemplified, our species falls for it every time.
- StudentStuff 7y ago
  I did not care to dig into his first two sentences, but next time you see a comment like that, please ask them for citations and dissect what they said with your own citations. We need to deal in fact, which requires a fair bit of effort to cite and write. Call out those poisoning the comments with vitrol and insanity, a harsh light reveals their lack of grounding in fact.
newfriend 7y ago
Unchecked IP and currency abuse by China, and unfettered illegal immigration are also "not good for the USA or my fellow American." > kids being killed by Customs and Border Protection Are you actually trying to claim that CBP is deliberately killing children?
- laughinghan 7y ago
  Economic growth for 8 straight years of the last 7 years of the Obama administration and the first year of the Trump administration were good for the USA and our fellow Americans. Is killing children okay if it's not deliberate?
- StudentStuff 7y ago
  > Unchecked IP and currency abuse by China, and unfettered illegal immigration are also "not good for the USA or my fellow American." Please cite how the USA has been negatively affected by IP abuse or China's monetary policy. It seems quite similar to our prior tangoes with Japanese cars & Taiwan's electronics imports to the USA. At this juncture we have pushed China into economic stagnation, while slowing our own economic growth. > unfettered illegal immigration are also "not good for the USA or my fellow American." We're a country of immigrants, our current "legal" immigration system is only a few decades old. Prior to that it was a free for all with nearly open borders (and no passports/visas), which bolstered the US economy mightily during World War 1 & World War 2. Open Borders is key to being open for business, our current policy is locking out millions of people that could turbocharge our economy. > Are you actually trying to claim that CBP is deliberately killing children? Yes, when you choose to act in a way that you know kills some children needlessly, you are killing children. God doesn't look the other way!

codeisawesome 7y ago

Wish you'd asked for a citation for the whole dang comment. It's the exact kind of "sweet tasting" vitriol that has been sending people with a certain kind of persona into a feeding frenzy in countries all over the fucking planet. This phenomenon is a testament to how susceptible our collective amygdalae are to narrative manipulation. Doesn't matter how many historical precedents are exemplified, our species falls for it every time.

StudentStuff 7y ago
I did not care to dig into his first two sentences, but next time you see a comment like that, please ask them for citations and dissect what they said with your own citations. We need to deal in fact, which requires a fair bit of effort to cite and write. Call out those poisoning the comments with vitrol and insanity, a harsh light reveals their lack of grounding in fact.

newfriend 7y ago

Unchecked IP and currency abuse by China, and unfettered illegal immigration are also "not good for the USA or my fellow American." > kids being killed by Customs and Border Protection Are you actually trying to claim that CBP is deliberately killing children?

laughinghan 7y ago
Economic growth for 8 straight years of the last 7 years of the Obama administration and the first year of the Trump administration were good for the USA and our fellow Americans. Is killing children okay if it's not deliberate?
StudentStuff 7y ago
> Unchecked IP and currency abuse by China, and unfettered illegal immigration are also "not good for the USA or my fellow American." Please cite how the USA has been negatively affected by IP abuse or China's monetary policy. It seems quite similar to our prior tangoes with Japanese cars & Taiwan's electronics imports to the USA. At this juncture we have pushed China into economic stagnation, while slowing our own economic growth. > unfettered illegal immigration are also "not good for the USA or my fellow American." We're a country of immigrants, our current "legal" immigration system is only a few decades old. Prior to that it was a free for all with nearly open borders (and no passports/visas), which bolstered the US economy mightily during World War 1 & World War 2. Open Borders is key to being open for business, our current policy is locking out millions of people that could turbocharge our economy. > Are you actually trying to claim that CBP is deliberately killing children? Yes, when you choose to act in a way that you know kills some children needlessly, you are killing children. God doesn't look the other way!