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FYI: animals don’t “produce” leather, it’s their skin. It always surprises me how humans collectively “mechanize” nature, so it’s easier to rationalize exploit
by iyn 7y ago
FYI: animals don’t “produce” leather, it’s their skin.
It always surprises me how humans collectively “mechanize” nature, so it’s easier to rationalize exploiting it.
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- hollerith 7y agoHow would you have phrased his "US beef and milk production produces leather as a byproduct"?
- whenchamenia 7y agoWe similarly mechanize the growing of organisims in their own biodegraded guts and eat them afterward. Everything sounds grusome when you frame it that way. Being an apex predator comes with advantages as well as responsibilities to best utilize ourselves as we nessarily consume other organisms and not dirt.
- microcolonel 7y agoAnimals are raised to be harvested for what they are, there is no moral component, provided we make some effort to limit the suffering. If cattle benefitted from domesticating humans and could pull it off, they would do so with pride.
- niek_pas 7y ago"Slaves are raised to work the fields, there is no moral component, provided we make some effort to limit the suffering." Is this equally true to you?
- microcolonel 7y agoSlaves are people, and like other people, at least in general tend to be capable of moral consideration. Your house cat will eat your dead body without considering the moral implications.
- magduf 7y agoThat's total BS. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/23/cats-bond-with-owners-and-are-not-as-aloof-as-they-seem-study-shows https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/23/cats-bo... The cat might eat your dead body because it's trying to avoid starvation (after all, your ghost presumably isn't continuing to feed it, and it's stuck inside with your corpse and doesn't know how to use your cellphone to call for help), just like humans did in the Andes mountains, as seen in the movie "Alive". There's nothing immoral about eating a dead animal to survive.
- microcolonel 7y agoYou missed the "without considering the moral implications" bit. Your house cat isn't even aware of the concept of morality, or any recognized expression of it, and will avoid eating your body mainly because it's gross.
- jodrellblank 7y ago“Produce: bring forth, yield; to bring into existence; give rise to; to make something“ So “FYI” yes they do.
- magduf 7y agoWhat kind of lame attempt at policing and changing language is this? Yes, animals absolutely do produce leather. Go read a dictionary! Similarly, my stomach produces stomach acid, my sweat glands produce sweat, etc., and none of that is "mechanized" or used for any kind of industry, it's just how my (and your) body works.