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Bias: prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair. If a data set is flawed, it
by raven105x 7y ago
Bias: prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair.
If a data set is flawed, it should be fixed, but when ML finds objective patterns our culture finds subjectively unpalatable and we choose to "fix" them, we fall prey to and re-enact the same grade of self-delusion exhibited by, for example, "the church" in the dark ages. Computer science is already low in terms of accountability & rigor compared to other fields without these kinds of suggestions.
- krainboltgreene 7y ago> "the church" in the dark ages This isn't a thing and you should read more about what you think happened in this period of western history.
- raven105x 7y agoI said nothing of Western history and am familiar with the subject. Also, this is completely unrelated to my point so you will receive no further responses on it.
- krainboltgreene 7y agoIt's the foundation of your point.
- jeegsy 7y agoIf we say the dataset is flawed, it is important that we pin down why and how exactly it is flawed. By what methods exactly are we going to source "not-flawed" data?
- crooked-v 7y agoYou use the phrase 'objective pattern' here, but that conflates causation and correlation. For example: black men in the US are more likely than white men to have criminal records, but this in no way means that black men are "objectively" more criminal.
- o_p 7y agoLet me catch up with the double-think. They commit more crime on average but they are not more criminal? What kind of olympics-grade mental gymnastics are these?
- crooked-v 7y agoTo start with, 'more likely to have a criminal record' and 'more likely to have committed a crime' are not actually the same thing.
- error54 7y agoYou're rewording what they said. If any group of people is more policed than another group of people, said group is more likely to have a criminal record. Doesn't mean they're more "criminal" than any other group but more of a reflection on the current state of the criminal justice system. To paraphrase Warren Buffet: "If a cop follows you for 500 miles, they're going to find a reason to give you a ticket."
- o_p 7y agoCould be true for trivial felonies like a ticket, but if we talk about real crime thats not really an excuse. Would be more inclined to think black people commit more crime because socioeconomic factors, as poverty correlates crime.
- andrewprock 7y agoIt really depends on how you define crime. Usually crime and prosecution is defined in such a way as to impact the lower classes more than the upper classes.
- twyasdfg 7y agoMurder is rather easy to define. There is a dead body with holes in his/her head, there is a murder. The tragedy being that murder is way more prevalent in the black community, partly because of underpolicing.