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There is usually no cure for chronic pain. This is medical fact. Your case is not descriptive. It is usually not caused by scar tissue, or an infection. For exa

There is usually no cure for chronic pain. This is medical fact. Your case is not descriptive. It is usually not caused by scar tissue, or an infection. For example MRI reports are only slightly correlated with actual spinal pain. It generally involves an up modulation of pain sensation in the peripheral and central nervous system. It is worthwhile to investigate the cause but most people don't find a cure like you did. There is no cure for most chronic pain patients. This is an extremely harmful answer. Do not listen to this person. If you have chronic pain, see a pain management specialist - a physiatrist or an interventional anaesthesiologist, or both. There are many non-opioid options that work extremely well. They can coordinate other care. For example here's a Quora answer listing just a few treatments for chronic arthritis pain: https://www.quora.com/What-do-I-do-as-a-chronic-pain-elderly-arthritis-patient-whose-doctor-no-longer-wants-to-write-me-prescriptions-for-pain-medication-due-to-the-opioid-crisis https://www.quora.com/What-do-I-do-as-a-chronic-pain-elderly...

Retric 7y ago
That’s exactly the kind of diagnosis you get when the real answer is “I don’t know.” Peripheral nervous system issues may be the root cause for some chronic pain, but it’s very difficult to rule out all other causes. Also, MRI’s are still very much blunt instruments. A high resolution 1 millimetre scan is still representing ~100,000+ cells per voxel.
- rjurney 7y ago
  I'm not saying don't investigate. Its been ten years for me, and I'm still investigating. But the numbers are clear: usually there is no clear cause except a poorly understood change in the nervous system. The answer for most people is, "I don't know," with the current sophistication of medicine. You can't try harder and find the answer because there is no answer at this time for most people.
LinuxBender 7y ago
For arthritis, take a look at Sulforaphane. It is being tested on humans and dogs for arthritis with good results. Sorry I dont have links handy, but you can find them on nih.gov. Sulforaphane is also being used to reverse autism.
CuriouslyC 7y ago
You're falling into the classic trap of thinking doctors know everything, but sorry to say that's not even close to true. Most doctors know next to nothing about myofascial pain (even many that really should). I've seen multiple cases of mobility impairment and chronic pain that even well a respected orthopedic surgeon thought required surgery be corrected by aggressive bodywork, including trigger point myofascial release and dry needling.
- shawnz 7y ago
  Doctors sometimes get things wrong. That doesn't mean you're MORE likely to get the answer from a layperson -- it's still much more likely that your doctor got it right. > corrected by aggressive bodywork, including trigger point myofascial release and dry needling. It was corrected, but that doesn't mean those techniques are what corrected it.
- zbentley 7y ago
  I am glad you found a diagnosis and treatment. It is good to research and seek diagnosis and treatment. But that's not what GP is saying. GP is saying that associating diagnosis with resolution is a recipe for disappointment and wasted effort. Given our current abilities and the state of the art, finding a cause is not possible for many people, period. It is great that some people find a cause. It is also great that some people turn hard work into millions of dollars. That does not mean that it is a reasonable expectation for others--in fact, it is a harmful one, that obviates or distracts from more constructive alternatives, which GP suggested.
- rjurney 7y ago
  No, I read science myself. I’ve read hundreds of journal articles. I know the condition. I read pharmacology textbooks. You’re espousing hippiedom and it’s top comment because of left wing ignorance.
  - Smoosh 7y ago
    > left wing ignorance Please don't be that guy.
proverbialbunny 7y ago
>This is an extremely harmful answer. Do not listen to this person. They just want to help, and for all anyone knows, they are helping. Saying it's an extremely harmful answer is not only untrue, it's harmful to discourage conversation that can lead to progress. However, it is helpful to let people know what options they have and who and what they can go to for help. GPs should be doing this, but you'd be surprised how little they know about chronic pain. I've yet to bump into a GP who forwards people with chronic pain in the right direction. >If you have chronic pain, see a pain management specialist This is so important. Few know there are chronic pain centers people can go to that literally specialize in just chronic pain. They can help. They usually consist of three doctors and a physical therapist. For people with years of chronic pain a combination of things needs to be done at once to help them get out of it. Also, optimism is helpful because it can prevent learned helplessness. Imagine living a life in chronic pain that could be cured, but instead every hypothetical was shot down, so not enough attempts towards a solution was made.

Retric 7y ago

That’s exactly the kind of diagnosis you get when the real answer is “I don’t know.” Peripheral nervous system issues may be the root cause for some chronic pain, but it’s very difficult to rule out all other causes. Also, MRI’s are still very much blunt instruments. A high resolution 1 millimetre scan is still representing ~100,000+ cells per voxel.

rjurney 7y ago
I'm not saying don't investigate. Its been ten years for me, and I'm still investigating. But the numbers are clear: usually there is no clear cause except a poorly understood change in the nervous system. The answer for most people is, "I don't know," with the current sophistication of medicine. You can't try harder and find the answer because there is no answer at this time for most people.

LinuxBender 7y ago

For arthritis, take a look at Sulforaphane. It is being tested on humans and dogs for arthritis with good results. Sorry I dont have links handy, but you can find them on nih.gov. Sulforaphane is also being used to reverse autism.

CuriouslyC 7y ago

You're falling into the classic trap of thinking doctors know everything, but sorry to say that's not even close to true. Most doctors know next to nothing about myofascial pain (even many that really should). I've seen multiple cases of mobility impairment and chronic pain that even well a respected orthopedic surgeon thought required surgery be corrected by aggressive bodywork, including trigger point myofascial release and dry needling.

shawnz 7y ago
Doctors sometimes get things wrong. That doesn't mean you're MORE likely to get the answer from a layperson -- it's still much more likely that your doctor got it right. > corrected by aggressive bodywork, including trigger point myofascial release and dry needling. It was corrected, but that doesn't mean those techniques are what corrected it.
zbentley 7y ago
I am glad you found a diagnosis and treatment. It is good to research and seek diagnosis and treatment. But that's not what GP is saying. GP is saying that associating diagnosis with resolution is a recipe for disappointment and wasted effort. Given our current abilities and the state of the art, finding a cause is not possible for many people, period. It is great that some people find a cause. It is also great that some people turn hard work into millions of dollars. That does not mean that it is a reasonable expectation for others--in fact, it is a harmful one, that obviates or distracts from more constructive alternatives, which GP suggested.
rjurney 7y ago
No, I read science myself. I’ve read hundreds of journal articles. I know the condition. I read pharmacology textbooks. You’re espousing hippiedom and it’s top comment because of left wing ignorance.
- Smoosh 7y ago
  > left wing ignorance Please don't be that guy.

proverbialbunny 7y ago

>This is an extremely harmful answer. Do not listen to this person. They just want to help, and for all anyone knows, they are helping. Saying it's an extremely harmful answer is not only untrue, it's harmful to discourage conversation that can lead to progress. However, it is helpful to let people know what options they have and who and what they can go to for help. GPs should be doing this, but you'd be surprised how little they know about chronic pain. I've yet to bump into a GP who forwards people with chronic pain in the right direction. >If you have chronic pain, see a pain management specialist This is so important. Few know there are chronic pain centers people can go to that literally specialize in just chronic pain. They can help. They usually consist of three doctors and a physical therapist. For people with years of chronic pain a combination of things needs to be done at once to help them get out of it. Also, optimism is helpful because it can prevent learned helplessness. Imagine living a life in chronic pain that could be cured, but instead every hypothetical was shot down, so not enough attempts towards a solution was made.