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Yeah, it's almost like trade deals completely decimated domestic manufacturing the last 3 decades and it's impossible to build things here because everything al

Yeah, it's almost like trade deals completely decimated domestic manufacturing the last 3 decades and it's impossible to build things here because everything already moved overseas. All the 'little screw' suppliers went overseas or went out of business because their customers went overseas.

genericone 7y ago
Apple announcing they will continue to build mac pros in the USA is their signal to suppliers that they should follow them back to the USA. If the incentive to small-parts suppliers is good and the reverberating feedback are strong enough (small-suppliers bringing large suppliers, large suppliers bringing more small suppliers, rinse repeat), it'll lead other manufacturers to come back. If automation is going to take over labor, then location and labor-wages will matter less than supply-chain and the regulatory environment. If USA can get back the supply-chain, the USA rule-of-law environment, is probably preferable to China's rule-by-law environment.
- linuxftw 7y ago
  I don't disagree. My comment was related to the notion of 'oh you can't just build things here' premise that I responded to.
nerfhammer 7y ago
US manufacturing output has doubled in the last 3 decades: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-manufacturing-dead-output-has-doubled-in-three-decades-2016-03-28 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-manufacturing-dead-outp...
- Godel_unicode 7y ago
  It's also important to measure the amount of stuff made; US factories not only produce more expensive products but they produce more of them. This is particularly true of durable goods. From parents article: """The production of electronics, aerospace goods, motor vehicles and machinery are at or close to all-time highs.""'
  - linuxftw 7y ago
    I don't buy it. Those stats must be including things assembled or repackaged in the US. Almost everything I own is made overseas. Computers, appliances, furniture, clothing. It's also not clear if these statistics are subject to the same types of laws as claiming something is 'made in America'. If I buy a box of parts from offshore and assemble and end product out of those parts, is that made in the US according to those stats?

genericone 7y ago

Apple announcing they will continue to build mac pros in the USA is their signal to suppliers that they should follow them back to the USA. If the incentive to small-parts suppliers is good and the reverberating feedback are strong enough (small-suppliers bringing large suppliers, large suppliers bringing more small suppliers, rinse repeat), it'll lead other manufacturers to come back. If automation is going to take over labor, then location and labor-wages will matter less than supply-chain and the regulatory environment. If USA can get back the supply-chain, the USA rule-of-law environment, is probably preferable to China's rule-by-law environment.

linuxftw 7y ago
I don't disagree. My comment was related to the notion of 'oh you can't just build things here' premise that I responded to.

nerfhammer 7y ago

US manufacturing output has doubled in the last 3 decades: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-manufacturing-dead-output-has-doubled-in-three-decades-2016-03-28 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-manufacturing-dead-outp...

Godel_unicode 7y ago
It's also important to measure the amount of stuff made; US factories not only produce more expensive products but they produce more of them. This is particularly true of durable goods. From parents article: """The production of electronics, aerospace goods, motor vehicles and machinery are at or close to all-time highs.""'
- linuxftw 7y ago
  I don't buy it. Those stats must be including things assembled or repackaged in the US. Almost everything I own is made overseas. Computers, appliances, furniture, clothing. It's also not clear if these statistics are subject to the same types of laws as claiming something is 'made in America'. If I buy a box of parts from offshore and assemble and end product out of those parts, is that made in the US according to those stats?