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"I like it warmer though, where's my lobby? ;-)" You have a ton? They kind of dwarf climate change lobbyists in size and influence? They've been wildly success

"I like it warmer though, where's my lobby? ;-)" You have a ton? They kind of dwarf climate change lobbyists in size and influence? They've been wildly successful at breaking the Paris agreement?

lazyjones 7y ago
> They've been wildly successful at breaking the Paris agreement? Would you kindly elaborate on that, what exactly did "they" break? Can you point me to some TV interviews or documentaries on MSM showing their superior influence compared to "climate change activists"?
- SolaceQuantum 7y ago
  I mean, given that there is no carbon tax, carbon use has been increasing, and the federal government of my nation is stripping a state's stricter gas emissions laws for vehicles, I think lobbyists against climate change activism have been wildly successful. And "they" means "your lobbyists". "They" is a pronoun referring to an arbitrary number of people for which have already been declared in English grammar.
  - lazyjones 7y ago
    > given that there is no carbon tax There is in some countries and more and more are considering one. > carbon use has been increasing Where? Not in the EU and USA if you mean emissions and not something like paper use... > I think lobbyists against climate change activism have been wildly successful. But why are they practically invisible? How can the news / the MSM report on climate change every day despite all that lobbying and not a single authoritative voice against it is heard? Except Trump, sometimes and other politicians shunned by the media.
- qnsi 7y ago
  For example EU not implementing carbon tax in the 90s because of the lobbyists
  - lazyjones 7y ago
    Do you have a source for this ("because of the lobbyists") except the Wikipedia page, which links/refers to an article that doesn't seem to address the claim? (http://www.oecd.org/unitedkingdom/34512257.pdf http://www.oecd.org/unitedkingdom/34512257.pdf) FWIW, pretty much everything in the EU is dictated by lobbyists: https://transparency.eu/lobbyistsinbrussels/ https://transparency.eu/lobbyistsinbrussels/

"I like it warmer though, where's my lobby? ;-)" You have a ton? They kind of dwarf climate change lobbyists in size and influence? They've been wildly successful at breaking the Paris agreement?

lazyjones 7y ago

> They've been wildly successful at breaking the Paris agreement? Would you kindly elaborate on that, what exactly did "they" break? Can you point me to some TV interviews or documentaries on MSM showing their superior influence compared to "climate change activists"?

SolaceQuantum 7y ago
I mean, given that there is no carbon tax, carbon use has been increasing, and the federal government of my nation is stripping a state's stricter gas emissions laws for vehicles, I think lobbyists against climate change activism have been wildly successful. And "they" means "your lobbyists". "They" is a pronoun referring to an arbitrary number of people for which have already been declared in English grammar.
- lazyjones 7y ago
  > given that there is no carbon tax There is in some countries and more and more are considering one. > carbon use has been increasing Where? Not in the EU and USA if you mean emissions and not something like paper use... > I think lobbyists against climate change activism have been wildly successful. But why are they practically invisible? How can the news / the MSM report on climate change every day despite all that lobbying and not a single authoritative voice against it is heard? Except Trump, sometimes and other politicians shunned by the media.
qnsi 7y ago
For example EU not implementing carbon tax in the 90s because of the lobbyists
- lazyjones 7y ago
  Do you have a source for this ("because of the lobbyists") except the Wikipedia page, which links/refers to an article that doesn't seem to address the claim? (http://www.oecd.org/unitedkingdom/34512257.pdf http://www.oecd.org/unitedkingdom/34512257.pdf) FWIW, pretty much everything in the EU is dictated by lobbyists: https://transparency.eu/lobbyistsinbrussels/ https://transparency.eu/lobbyistsinbrussels/