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> The goals of the Paris agreement are not within reach with the current measures Are you interested in reduction of global emissions or in the goals of the Pa

> The goals of the Paris agreement are not within reach with the current measures Are you interested in reduction of global emissions or in the goals of the Paris agreement? Decide and then inform yourself about the difference. The Paris agreement is responsible for China and India emitting CO2 recklessly, because it treats them as developing nations and their goals are defined in terms of GDP while "ours" aren't. A 5% reduction in China would be worth more than a 10% reduction in the EU, if you're just looking at total emissions. > Are you ok with all of the world's coral reefs dying? That's what were are going. Yes, I'd risk that if the world becomes greener and more fertile at that cost. It's probably not due to CO2 though: https://www.npr.org/2019/07/16/742050975/floridas-corals-are-dying-off-but-it-s-not-all-due-to-climate-change-study-says https://www.npr.org/2019/07/16/742050975/floridas-corals-are...

Tepix 7y ago
That article about Florida's reefs is interesting. But reefs are dying due to coral bleaching all over the planet, even in areas with no fertilizer such as the Maldives. And rising temperatures are the leading cause (source: https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/invertebrates/corals-and-coral-reefs https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/invertebrates/corals-and-cor... ) > the world becomes greener and more fertile That's not what the science says. Some areas may see improvements, but globally harvests will go down and we will see a lot of refugees and hunger as a result.
- lazyjones 7y ago
  > globally harvests will go down and we will see a lot of refugees and hunger as a result. The science predicts these with some degree of uncertainty but surely in the past 100 years of warming we should have seen some of that already? Harvests are up lately, hunger is very much down and the regions where population growth is highest are among the hottest in the world, closest to the equator.

Tepix 7y ago

That article about Florida's reefs is interesting. But reefs are dying due to coral bleaching all over the planet, even in areas with no fertilizer such as the Maldives. And rising temperatures are the leading cause (source: https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/invertebrates/corals-and-coral-reefs https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/invertebrates/corals-and-cor... ) > the world becomes greener and more fertile That's not what the science says. Some areas may see improvements, but globally harvests will go down and we will see a lot of refugees and hunger as a result.

lazyjones 7y ago
> globally harvests will go down and we will see a lot of refugees and hunger as a result. The science predicts these with some degree of uncertainty but surely in the past 100 years of warming we should have seen some of that already? Harvests are up lately, hunger is very much down and the regions where population growth is highest are among the hottest in the world, closest to the equator.