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Enterprise-managed laptops need this just as much as my personal machine, they are woefully underserved by current user management.

jacquesm 7y ago
Enterprise managed laptops typically run Windows or OS/X. I haven't seen a Linux laptop in the wild at the enterprise level for years. Which companies use those?
- diffeomorphism 7y ago
  > Enterprise managed laptops typically run Windows or OS/X. I haven't seen a Linux laptop in the wild at the enterprise level for years. Chicken-egg. If you don't have appropriate management features (like the ones introduced here), then you don't get enterprise deployments.
  - jacquesm 7y ago
    That's RedHat's wishful thinking at work. Linux on the desktop is called 'Chromebooks', not 'RedHat'. They missed that boat by a couple of years and it is not coming back.
    - diffeomorphism 7y ago
      So which is it? - This is going to be so awesome that "everybody and their brother can't stop themselves from tripping over their own feet to adopt". or - Wishful thinking, doesn't matter.
      - jacquesm 7y ago
        Package managers and distro maintainers are not typically the end-users I have in mind. But if you can't see these groups as different then that's fine, but lets just leave it at that I, an end user was forced to adopt a set of system changes that I had no influence over because of RedHat's continued aspiration to put 'Linux on the desktop' when that had in fact happened ages ago. That you feel that adoption only happens because something is 'so awesome' is putting the horse behind the cart, stuff gets adopted all the time when better alternatives are available, all it takes is enough clout behind the push and it's a done deal. If technical merits were the deciding factor DR-Dos and OS/2 would still be around today instead of their lesser alternatives.
        jraph 7y ago
        So, basically, people who maintain the system you use have made decisions on its evolution that you don't like. Keeping the system as it is would have been another, arguable, possibility, not the obvious thing to do. I can't see any solution to this problem for you apart from another system emerging with features you like (maybe from a fork). Which is not trivial.

jacquesm 7y ago

Enterprise managed laptops typically run Windows or OS/X. I haven't seen a Linux laptop in the wild at the enterprise level for years. Which companies use those?

diffeomorphism 7y ago
> Enterprise managed laptops typically run Windows or OS/X. I haven't seen a Linux laptop in the wild at the enterprise level for years. Chicken-egg. If you don't have appropriate management features (like the ones introduced here), then you don't get enterprise deployments.
- jacquesm 7y ago
  That's RedHat's wishful thinking at work. Linux on the desktop is called 'Chromebooks', not 'RedHat'. They missed that boat by a couple of years and it is not coming back.
  - diffeomorphism 7y ago
    So which is it? - This is going to be so awesome that "everybody and their brother can't stop themselves from tripping over their own feet to adopt". or - Wishful thinking, doesn't matter.
    - jacquesm 7y ago
      Package managers and distro maintainers are not typically the end-users I have in mind. But if you can't see these groups as different then that's fine, but lets just leave it at that I, an end user was forced to adopt a set of system changes that I had no influence over because of RedHat's continued aspiration to put 'Linux on the desktop' when that had in fact happened ages ago. That you feel that adoption only happens because something is 'so awesome' is putting the horse behind the cart, stuff gets adopted all the time when better alternatives are available, all it takes is enough clout behind the push and it's a done deal. If technical merits were the deciding factor DR-Dos and OS/2 would still be around today instead of their lesser alternatives.
      - jraph 7y ago
        So, basically, people who maintain the system you use have made decisions on its evolution that you don't like. Keeping the system as it is would have been another, arguable, possibility, not the obvious thing to do. I can't see any solution to this problem for you apart from another system emerging with features you like (maybe from a fork). Which is not trivial.