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“Temporarily stuck until they can get a flight scheduled” is better, but wordy. These vacationers are in safe countries with good infrastructure. They definit

by parsimo2010 7y ago

“Temporarily stuck until they can get a flight scheduled” is better, but wordy. These vacationers are in safe countries with good infrastructure. They definitely aren’t stranded like Tom Hanks in Cast Away. However, the other airlines can’t magic up 150,000 seats, so it might mean that some people will take a while to get home.

CaliforniaKarl 7y ago
Thomas Cook was more than just a travel agent. They were also an airline… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Airlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Airlines … and a hotel chain … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Hotels_&_Resorts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Hotels_&_Resorts I would not be surprised if the UK has laws in place, and/or are using ATOL funds, so that the existing Thomas Cook aircraft can be pressed into service for the return journeys. For example, return arrangements have already been confirmed for those traveling from Croatia on the 23rd: https://thomascook.caa.co.uk/customers/if-you-are-currently-abroad/guidance-by-destination/croatia/split-spu/23-september/ https://thomascook.caa.co.uk/customers/if-you-are-currently-... The return flight details are identical to the original Thomas Cook flights (other than the flight numbers, which are similar).
- stordoff 7y ago
  > The return flight details are identical to the original Thomas Cook flights (other than the flight numbers, which are similar). I suspect it's different operators re-using the same flight numbers and airport slots. ZT is Titan (a short notice lease provider, which makes sense): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Airways https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Airways U2 is easyJet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyJet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyJet Titan Airways are confirmed as providing support: > Following the collapse of Thomas Cook, Titan Airways are working in co-ordination with the Civil Aviation Authority to provide return flights back to the UK for those passengers currently overseas. http://www.titan-airways.com/ http://www.titan-airways.com/
maxden 7y ago
In one of the articles it said one hotel wasn't letting guests leave without paying more money, as the hotel believed they weren't going to get paid. So in some extreme cases it's not just about getting flights back to the UK.
- eecc 7y ago
  Hmm, I’d be careful with this sort of behavior. Not letting people leave is the definition of kidnapping and I can’t think of any jurisdiction that doesn’t look dimly upon it.
  - markdown 7y ago
    They just need to get the cops to come and arrest them for not paying. The cops can "kidnap" them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbVJU1CuM0Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbVJU1CuM0Q
gertrunde 7y ago
This has been in planning between the CAA and major airlines since at least December 2018. (See 'Project Matterhorn'). The operation will temporarily be the 5th largest airline in the UK, with a fleet of around 50 aircraft.

CaliforniaKarl 7y ago

Thomas Cook was more than just a travel agent. They were also an airline… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Airlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Airlines … and a hotel chain … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Hotels_&_Resorts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cook_Hotels_&_Resorts I would not be surprised if the UK has laws in place, and/or are using ATOL funds, so that the existing Thomas Cook aircraft can be pressed into service for the return journeys. For example, return arrangements have already been confirmed for those traveling from Croatia on the 23rd: https://thomascook.caa.co.uk/customers/if-you-are-currently-abroad/guidance-by-destination/croatia/split-spu/23-september/ https://thomascook.caa.co.uk/customers/if-you-are-currently-... The return flight details are identical to the original Thomas Cook flights (other than the flight numbers, which are similar).

stordoff 7y ago
> The return flight details are identical to the original Thomas Cook flights (other than the flight numbers, which are similar). I suspect it's different operators re-using the same flight numbers and airport slots. ZT is Titan (a short notice lease provider, which makes sense): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Airways https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_Airways U2 is easyJet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyJet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyJet Titan Airways are confirmed as providing support: > Following the collapse of Thomas Cook, Titan Airways are working in co-ordination with the Civil Aviation Authority to provide return flights back to the UK for those passengers currently overseas. http://www.titan-airways.com/ http://www.titan-airways.com/

maxden 7y ago

In one of the articles it said one hotel wasn't letting guests leave without paying more money, as the hotel believed they weren't going to get paid. So in some extreme cases it's not just about getting flights back to the UK.

eecc 7y ago
Hmm, I’d be careful with this sort of behavior. Not letting people leave is the definition of kidnapping and I can’t think of any jurisdiction that doesn’t look dimly upon it.
- markdown 7y ago
  They just need to get the cops to come and arrest them for not paying. The cops can "kidnap" them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbVJU1CuM0Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbVJU1CuM0Q

gertrunde 7y ago

This has been in planning between the CAA and major airlines since at least December 2018. (See 'Project Matterhorn'). The operation will temporarily be the 5th largest airline in the UK, with a fleet of around 50 aircraft.