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I went to the homepage and ctrl-clicked a company card (Mozilla) to open the details in a new tab. Instead, the site jacked my ctrl-click and instead tried to n
by the_pwner224 7y ago
I went to the homepage and ctrl-clicked a company card (Mozilla) to open the details in a new tab. Instead, the site jacked my ctrl-click and instead tried to navigate to the link in the same tab. Middle-clicking does not work at all.
It then went to an error page instead of loading the details for Mozilla, but while it's an interesting idea I'm not sure how useful it is. I don't usually create an account on a website unless I have to do so, and the privacy policy is nonnegotiable. So why would I want to check what their privacy policy is?
I only give personal data to websites when I have to (e.g. to services that work or school use) or if I already trust the company to not do anything shady with it (Mozilla has done some sketchy stuff but I believe they won't leak my passwords).
And for websites where participation is more optional, like HN or Reddit, you don't usually need to give much personal data anyway.
Edit: the website is fully working now. Mozilla has had one security breach where emails and hashed passwords were leaked, in 2014. At the bottom the sentence breakdown is 2.5/12/22% concerning/mild/friendly. Meanwhile Reddit has no breaches, but keeps your messages forever and shares data with ad companies. Their sentence breakdown at the bottom is 3.3/23/9%. Overall, the AI rates Mozilla at 33% and Reddit at 41%. That doesn't really make sense to me.
I would really like to see more details about the privacy policy sentences on the website. If 2.5% of Mozilla's privacy policy is very concerning and 12% is mildly bad, I would like to see the actual sentences to know the risks. There is a button to view the full annotated policy, but clicking it says to send an email to you. Edit: this seems like a bug, it shows a few sentences in a WebKit-based browser [Falkon] but in Firefox it just shows the chain link icons.
Finally, I took the A/B test from Guard, and quite of a few A/B choices seemed to not really have anything to do with privacy. If the dataset is kept the same, then I think a different test format would be to rate each A and B snippet as:
- Not about privacy
- Good for privacy # only if the other one is not about privacy
- Bad for privacy # only if the other one is not about privacy
- Better than [A/B] # only if neither is not about privacy
Anyway, the data itself may be somewhat useful to me if I want to learn more about a company's privacy practices. But for normal people, I think it would be helpful for the website to also explain why privacy is important and why people should care.
- simongr3dal 7y agoMore and more websites are so advanced that they can’t even use an <a> tag anymore. Instead they do some convoluted onclick-scripting that breaks all standard behavior and accessibility functionality.
- notyourwork 7y agoI think complicated is a better choice than advanced. Intentionally complicated without adding value in a lot of cases.
- wccrawford 7y agoI'm sure "advanced" was sarcasm.
- ronsor 7y agoShould have italicized advanced (or put it in quotes)
- gempir 7y agoI think this is mostly a problem of the tools used. An anchor tag by definition is an inline element, so it shouldn't really be a giant box that's clickable, so you default back to an onClick. onClick in popular frameworks just means left click and nothing more, which makes sense, except for that use case of opening in a new tab with middle mouse button or right clicking etc. So you have to add a lot of logic to support all that. If you break the html spec and make an anchor tag a block element then you have to deal with catching and stopping the event from it otherwise it would work as a normal link but you actually just want to change state in your JS app. So I think tools like Angular, React, Vue etc. should get a better way to create links on website that just change state .
- eitland 7y ago> So you have to add a lot of logic to support all that. Or, to point out the thing that is obvious to anyone who grew up on the old web: Removing a whole lot of logic also works.