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Unless one has coeliac disease, cutting off gluten is very much not recommended for one's health(on a scientific level, that is; reaching for Instagram likes is

Unless one has coeliac disease, cutting off gluten is very much not recommended for one's health(on a scientific level, that is; reaching for Instagram likes is another matter) Gluten is not nefarious, for Hypocrate's sake! Also, there's no such thing as a "detox", and fasting does not do your body any good.

hombre_fatal 7y ago
That sounds like pseudo/armchair/forum science as well. Why would you need grains much less gluten in your diet? I bet most people would see an improvement in their waistline if they removed them or replaced them with, say, more vegetables. Breads are a vice for most of us and I have a hard time believing they're contributing much to the diet unless your diet is just bread and soda pop.
- throwaway744678 7y ago
  I am certainly not a doctor, but it seemed to me that it was well-known. Look, eg.: https://www.gastroenterologyandhepatology.net/archives/february-2018/health-benefits-and-adverse-effects-of-a-gluten-free-diet-in-non-celiac-disease-patients/ https://www.gastroenterologyandhepatology.net/archives/febru...
  - mcguire 7y ago
    "The GFD continues to trend in popular culture and the media, and more people are restricting gluten from their diet. The medical community must seek to provide an evidence-based approach delineating both the benefits and potential harms of a GFD. Although convincing evidence is available to support the benefits of a GFD for certain patient populations without a gluten-related disease (especially patients with IBS and NCGS), the data are conflicting and not definitive. It appears that most individuals who participate in a GFD do not have a physiologic requirement for the diet and likely do not derive substantial benefit. Existing evidence for potential harms of a GFD include possible nutritional deficiencies, financial costs, and negative psychosocial implications. As with other dietary interventions, a GFD is a rapidly evolving topic, and additional insight is needed to guide a complete discussion between patients considering a GFD and their health care providers."
- deminature 7y ago
  Threads that deviate from tech on HN tend to be filled with armchair science. It's the effect of being extremely knowledgeable in one area, and thinking it translates to other fields.
southerndrift 7y ago
>and fasting does not do your body any good. Wasn't there a study that showed that at least mice live longer if they fast?
- AlexDragusin 7y ago
  Also this, Eat, Fast and Live Longer https://www.bbc.com/news/health-19112549 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-19112549
- WalterSear 7y ago
  There's a whole body of evidence that periodic fasting and caloric restriction has tremendous benefits. Check out Valter Longo and his work at USC.
timbit42 7y ago
My suspicion is that people who think they are gluten intolerant have been eating too much of products with grains. Reduce the grains and the resulting glucose in their system will reduce sufficiently to eliminate the inflammation issues they were having.
- basch 7y ago
  Plus, when the scientist who "discovered" gluten sensitivity went back to verify his results, he recanted, and said gluten wasnt to blame. He and his team now attribute it to FODMAPs, fermentable sugars. There's some overlap in the diet where foods have both, but any time someone still cites gluten, a protein, and not FODMAPs as their choice in food to avoid, I automatically mentally categorize it as diet driven by fad. So its not fair to say that avoiding gluten might not make you feel better, but its at best an indirect effect caused by also avoiding other parts of food, not gluten itself.

hombre_fatal 7y ago

That sounds like pseudo/armchair/forum science as well. Why would you need grains much less gluten in your diet? I bet most people would see an improvement in their waistline if they removed them or replaced them with, say, more vegetables. Breads are a vice for most of us and I have a hard time believing they're contributing much to the diet unless your diet is just bread and soda pop.

throwaway744678 7y ago
I am certainly not a doctor, but it seemed to me that it was well-known. Look, eg.: https://www.gastroenterologyandhepatology.net/archives/february-2018/health-benefits-and-adverse-effects-of-a-gluten-free-diet-in-non-celiac-disease-patients/ https://www.gastroenterologyandhepatology.net/archives/febru...
- mcguire 7y ago
  "The GFD continues to trend in popular culture and the media, and more people are restricting gluten from their diet. The medical community must seek to provide an evidence-based approach delineating both the benefits and potential harms of a GFD. Although convincing evidence is available to support the benefits of a GFD for certain patient populations without a gluten-related disease (especially patients with IBS and NCGS), the data are conflicting and not definitive. It appears that most individuals who participate in a GFD do not have a physiologic requirement for the diet and likely do not derive substantial benefit. Existing evidence for potential harms of a GFD include possible nutritional deficiencies, financial costs, and negative psychosocial implications. As with other dietary interventions, a GFD is a rapidly evolving topic, and additional insight is needed to guide a complete discussion between patients considering a GFD and their health care providers."
deminature 7y ago
Threads that deviate from tech on HN tend to be filled with armchair science. It's the effect of being extremely knowledgeable in one area, and thinking it translates to other fields.

southerndrift 7y ago

>and fasting does not do your body any good. Wasn't there a study that showed that at least mice live longer if they fast?

AlexDragusin 7y ago
Also this, Eat, Fast and Live Longer https://www.bbc.com/news/health-19112549 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-19112549
WalterSear 7y ago
There's a whole body of evidence that periodic fasting and caloric restriction has tremendous benefits. Check out Valter Longo and his work at USC.

timbit42 7y ago

My suspicion is that people who think they are gluten intolerant have been eating too much of products with grains. Reduce the grains and the resulting glucose in their system will reduce sufficiently to eliminate the inflammation issues they were having.

basch 7y ago
Plus, when the scientist who "discovered" gluten sensitivity went back to verify his results, he recanted, and said gluten wasnt to blame. He and his team now attribute it to FODMAPs, fermentable sugars. There's some overlap in the diet where foods have both, but any time someone still cites gluten, a protein, and not FODMAPs as their choice in food to avoid, I automatically mentally categorize it as diet driven by fad. So its not fair to say that avoiding gluten might not make you feel better, but its at best an indirect effect caused by also avoiding other parts of food, not gluten itself.