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> We always are making sure that we're doing everything from a privacy, safety and security standpoint that we can and those are our top priorities across the e
by artfulhippo 7y ago
> We always are making sure that we're doing everything from a privacy, safety and security standpoint that we can and those are our top priorities across the entire company, more so now than ever before. And so those are our top priorities - very focused on consumers...
- ‘Boz’
The silver lining of the misinformation era is that eventually, society will enforce severe consequences to those who casually lie to deceive people.
There isn’t a soul in our galaxy who believes that Facebook always does everything they can from a privacy, safety, and security standpoint.
When people like ‘Boz’ make statements like this, I wonder if they are even capable of feeling shame or regret.
- pacala 7y agoHe never said "increase privacy, safety and security of consumers". You read that between the lines, but he never said it. As far as he's concerned, it is you that has a comprehension problem.
- artfulhippo 7y agoI quoted the transcript verbatim. Then restated the quote. But I didn’t use the word “increase”. I stand by my statement. If I’m wrong, please correct me without misrepresenting it.
- pacala 7y agoWithout "increase", Boz's statement can also be parsed as "how much privacy, safety and security we can tradeoff for the largest amount of money".
- artfulhippo 7y agoIf I understand you, you’re saying that Boz didn’t lie, he just said the truth in so subtle a way that other social predators pick up on it, but that seems nice to normal people. That’s a deception even worse than lying! Lie or not, this style of communication demands stricter sanctions.
- pacala 7y agoExactly. I suspect this type of communication helps dealing with cognitive dissonance.
- skybrian 7y agoCasually throwing around accusations like that doesn't do anything to improve discussion. We all know that Facebook is unpopular already.
- artfulhippo 7y agoThe discussion has already been debased given that it’s about a nothing-burger PR piece filled with doublespeak. My comment is about changing social norms to improve society. Perhaps my tone is a bit harsh, but on the object level I believe my comment is more constructive than the interview. And on the point of tone, frankly, I think that people generally are far too polite in response to rhetorical deception.
- skybrian 7y agoI agree that the interview doesn't seem very useful. The interviewer tried (the questions are quite good), but Bosworth clearly got media training and isn't going to say anything he doesn't want to say, so there's very little of use. But, that's not at all unusual or specific to Facebook. Many interviews with politicians or business leaders go the same way. It would be better if someone bought their new device, tried it out, and took it apart. You can't learn stuff like that by interviewing a top executive. They don't even remember the details about how it all works, if they ever knew. In any case, being more rude about such things on Hacker News seems unlikely to have any effect on how these interviews go. But they do have an effect on whether our conversations are worth reading. Generally speaking, I think we should look for ways to encourage curiosity. If the topic is Facebook, how can we find out more about what Facebook is really doing? What are some reliable sources? I don't think I want to put time into that myself, but reading a bunch of rude comments about how people think Facebook is still terrible isn't going to encourage anyone else's curiosity either. This reminds me of how occasionally someone obsessed with a topic can be good at collecting and organizing information about it, even if they're a bit crazy in other ways. At least they're looking for stuff, and you don't have to share all their opinions to find it useful. On a good day, Hacker News conversations are more like that.