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From [1]: > People throw around the phrase "cognitive dissonance" lot, too loosely probably. But BSD folks who constantly tout the virtues of their license for

by cxr 7y ago

From [1]: > People throw around the phrase "cognitive dissonance" lot, too loosely probably. But BSD folks who constantly tout the virtues of their license for the things that it allows downstream developers to do and then complain when someone actually exercises those options are the single best real world example of cognitive dissonance that I've ever encountered. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12618977 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12618977 Or to put it in meme format. Copyleft: ∗exists∗ Developers: ptui, MIT all the way Cloud giants: oh hey, nice code Developers: wait stahp

znpy 7y ago
this is the cleanest explaination to all that's going on right now. The harsh truth is that Stallman had seen it right all along, and adviced us on time about what to do. Yet not all of us listened, many gave in into non-completely-free licenses, and here we are now.
- thomascgalvin 7y ago
  There are a lot of issues with Stallman, but when it comes to software freedom, the guy has been more right, more consistently, than anyone else. The fact that he advocated for "GPL Vx, or any later version" shows how much foresight he had; he even realized that he probably hadn't foreseen every issue, and included a mechanism for fixing it, and rolling out that patch more or less automatically.
  - heavenlyblue 7y ago
    I believe most of the developers who love coding would easily agree with Stallman. Unfortunately most of the world doesn’t care about code and they have every reason to be that way. So strategic decisions that push us towards less optimal minima are quite expected. TL;DR humanity doesn’t care about the pipe dream where everyone knows how to program and change things for themselves. they want finished products that do something.
convolvatron 7y ago
i generally understood it to go more like this: BSD-style developer wrote some code to scratch an itch developer finds company taking the source and tweaking it to make proprietary product developer and their friends land nice consulting gigs and/or full time jobs

by cxr 7y ago

znpy 7y ago

this is the cleanest explaination to all that's going on right now. The harsh truth is that Stallman had seen it right all along, and adviced us on time about what to do. Yet not all of us listened, many gave in into non-completely-free licenses, and here we are now.

thomascgalvin 7y ago
There are a lot of issues with Stallman, but when it comes to software freedom, the guy has been more right, more consistently, than anyone else. The fact that he advocated for "GPL Vx, or any later version" shows how much foresight he had; he even realized that he probably hadn't foreseen every issue, and included a mechanism for fixing it, and rolling out that patch more or less automatically.
- heavenlyblue 7y ago
  I believe most of the developers who love coding would easily agree with Stallman. Unfortunately most of the world doesn’t care about code and they have every reason to be that way. So strategic decisions that push us towards less optimal minima are quite expected. TL;DR humanity doesn’t care about the pipe dream where everyone knows how to program and change things for themselves. they want finished products that do something.

convolvatron 7y ago

i generally understood it to go more like this: BSD-style developer wrote some code to scratch an itch developer finds company taking the source and tweaking it to make proprietary product developer and their friends land nice consulting gigs and/or full time jobs