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Tweet has been deleted (URL 404s). Internet archive has some but not all of the thread https://web.archive.org/web/20190922094616/https://twitter.com/whitequark

Tweet has been deleted (URL 404s). Internet archive has some but not all of the thread https://web.archive.org/web/20190922094616/https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1175701730819895296 https://web.archive.org/web/20190922094616/https://twitter.c...

1ris 7y ago
Author writes: >whitequark ‏>nonconsensually submitted to the orange website
- userbinator 7y ago
  WTF... if I remember correctly, the legality of linking (as opposed to copying content) was already established by a few court cases long ago. I could understand if your personal site gets "HN'd", but a Twitter user doesn't pay for bandwidth.
  - klyrs 7y ago
    There's a wide chasm between good manners and legality. Don't get offended when your actions offend people. At best, it's hypocritical. Said differently: the legality of complaining about people being rude is already established. It isn't even slander/libel if you weren't actually rude, because being rude isn't a crime.
    - compuguy 7y ago
      It's quite simple: Whitequark deleted the thread because there is a portion of users/readers on HN that are toxic and/or hostile. People don't want to deal with that type of traffic blowing up their Twitter notification feed.
- dkersten 7y ago
  If you post something to the public internet, you cannot control where it ends up. If that is a problem for you, then you should probably not post on a non-private social media account. That doesn’t negate their right to delete their post after, of course, like this guy has done. Just can’t expect that nobody saw it or screenshotted it or whatever.
victorheld 7y ago
https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1175767033360740352 https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1175767033360740352
- tambourine_man 7y ago
  I’ve seen this hatred towards HN before on Twitter and I don’t really get it. HN is one of the most polite places on the internet, including Twitter.
  - lightedman 7y ago
    Being a massive control freak over how people express themselves is anything BUT polite. That is why HN gets its well-deserved reputation.
  - losteric 7y ago
    HN has a lot of smart people. People don't like being fact checked, especially when they believe they discovered something significant until experts show it was a basic misunderstanding.
    - angry_octet 7y ago
      This is the cannonical example of why HN gets it wrong. You really are not an expert in 99.99% of the topics on HN, so having this kind of holier than thou attitude is just really obnoxious.
      - losteric 7y ago
        And this is the canonical example of why Twitter gets it wrong :) I'm not talking about myself. Never even remotely implied it. HN is filled with the 0.1% that truly are experts on individual topics. You'll find people that wrote papers on quantum mechanics chiming in on QM discussions, people with decades of RF HW experience correcting those 5Ghz conspiracies, start-up founders jumping in on discussions, and (in this case) people that can read spec sheets and understand how systems like these are built and programmed. No one's an expert on much, but plenty are experts on something. Twitter's often too shallow to even entertain the possibility of being wrong.
DINKDINK 7y ago
Archiveis link before being memoryholed: http://archivecaslytosk.onion/mtow1 http://archivecaslytosk.onion/mtow1

1ris 7y ago

Author writes: >whitequark ‏>nonconsensually submitted to the orange website

userbinator 7y ago
WTF... if I remember correctly, the legality of linking (as opposed to copying content) was already established by a few court cases long ago. I could understand if your personal site gets "HN'd", but a Twitter user doesn't pay for bandwidth.
- klyrs 7y ago
  There's a wide chasm between good manners and legality. Don't get offended when your actions offend people. At best, it's hypocritical. Said differently: the legality of complaining about people being rude is already established. It isn't even slander/libel if you weren't actually rude, because being rude isn't a crime.
  - compuguy 7y ago
    It's quite simple: Whitequark deleted the thread because there is a portion of users/readers on HN that are toxic and/or hostile. People don't want to deal with that type of traffic blowing up their Twitter notification feed.
dkersten 7y ago
If you post something to the public internet, you cannot control where it ends up. If that is a problem for you, then you should probably not post on a non-private social media account. That doesn’t negate their right to delete their post after, of course, like this guy has done. Just can’t expect that nobody saw it or screenshotted it or whatever.

victorheld 7y ago

https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1175767033360740352 https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1175767033360740352

tambourine_man 7y ago
I’ve seen this hatred towards HN before on Twitter and I don’t really get it. HN is one of the most polite places on the internet, including Twitter.
- lightedman 7y ago
  Being a massive control freak over how people express themselves is anything BUT polite. That is why HN gets its well-deserved reputation.
- losteric 7y ago
  HN has a lot of smart people. People don't like being fact checked, especially when they believe they discovered something significant until experts show it was a basic misunderstanding.
  - angry_octet 7y ago
    This is the cannonical example of why HN gets it wrong. You really are not an expert in 99.99% of the topics on HN, so having this kind of holier than thou attitude is just really obnoxious.
    - losteric 7y ago
      And this is the canonical example of why Twitter gets it wrong :) I'm not talking about myself. Never even remotely implied it. HN is filled with the 0.1% that truly are experts on individual topics. You'll find people that wrote papers on quantum mechanics chiming in on QM discussions, people with decades of RF HW experience correcting those 5Ghz conspiracies, start-up founders jumping in on discussions, and (in this case) people that can read spec sheets and understand how systems like these are built and programmed. No one's an expert on much, but plenty are experts on something. Twitter's often too shallow to even entertain the possibility of being wrong.

DINKDINK 7y ago

Archiveis link before being memoryholed: http://archivecaslytosk.onion/mtow1 http://archivecaslytosk.onion/mtow1