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it does work with an empty package but it just goes to another address. So the seller doesn't get any package. If the seller were to get an empty package they w
by thinkingemote 7y ago
it does work with an empty package but it just goes to another address. So the seller doesn't get any package. If the seller were to get an empty package they would have some proof to show ebay and so the fraud would be harder to stop.
- gambiting 7y agoIt still doesn't make any sense. What would be your proof in this case? A picture of an empty box? That's not a proof of anything really, or at least I'd hope it's not - if it is then scummy sellers would always say that you returned an empty package(picture of an empty box included).
- ryanlol 7y agoThere's no "postcode loophole", this is just a polished empty return scam. The trick described in the article just improves upon it slightly by making the seller think that royal mail lost the package. There's no dependence on this trick though, the scam works 100% of the time even if the seller receives an empty box.
- NikkiA 7y agoIt does change slightly, ebay will consider a 'hey my box was empty' if it's coming from a buyer with a decent feedback. But since the royal mail says 'nope, was delivered' it never leaves the automated system that just assigns guilt to the buyer.
- ryanlol 7y agoIt is the seller receiving an empty box, not the buyer. Ebay will always believe a "hey my box was empty", no matter your account history. They'll just ban your account at some point.
- ryanlol 7y ago>they would have some proof to show ebay At first glance the empty box seems pretty meaningless, it certainly won't win a dispute for the seller. I guess you're right though, now the seller won't even realize that they're getting scammed and won't report the buyer account to ebay.
- megaremote 7y agoOk, so if someone tries this scam on you, take a picture of an empty box and then you have won. Right?
- FDSGSG 7y agoNo, you always lose if someone tries this scam on you. The only solution would be some kind of an insurance. This is just a cost of doing business. Really sucks for amateur sellers though.
- icebraining 7y ago> The only solution would be some kind of an insurance. If the scammer is in the UK, there's always small claims court. I'm not even from the UK, and I got a scamming seller from there to refund me by just threatening to make a claim.
- megaremote 7y ago> If the seller were to get an empty package they would have some proof to show ebay and so the fraud would be harder to stop. What? Think about it for a second, what proof would they have?