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Doyen in particular is extremely shady with many of the same people from the scandalous Trump SoHo deal including the man who brought a harem of underaged prost

Doyen in particular is extremely shady with many of the same people from the scandalous Trump SoHo deal including the man who brought a harem of underaged prostitutes on Atatark's yacht. It's amazing how small the corrupt class actually is and how bad international law enforcement is at stopping the wealthy corrupt. https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/the-football-leaks-family-2-hidden-partnerships-the-family-mafia-and-a-future-u-s-president/ https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/the-football-l... https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks-kazakh-moguls-the-pal-of-donald-trump-teen-models-and-the-yacht-of-the-father-of-the-turks/ https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks...

gowld 7y ago
It's fascinating how many "nationalist" leaders are privately part of a global elite class, hobnobbing with foreign interests
- Mirioron 7y ago
  Maybe the reason why they are nationalist is because they see the other global elites and want to avoid them?
  - shkkmo 7y ago
    That makes absolutely no sense...
    - Mirioron 7y ago
      Why would that not make sense? They don't want to share control with elites from other countries. If they developed towards a global system then everybody would have to follow the same rules, whereas right now there are different rules, which leads to more opportunities for them to retain their power.
  - n4r9 7y ago
    More likely that keeping countries isolated maintains access to tax havens, cheap labour and various other benefits.
    - HenryBemis 7y ago
      Rewording what you wrote. Maybe a dictator can make anyone disappear instantly with no questions asked from within the country. Scrutiny from the outside will only happen if someone is fast enough to leave and open their mouth despite the threat of retaliation/persecution/execution of loved ones (a la North Korea)
      - n4r9 7y ago
        I was thinking more broadly than overt dictators. Right-wing nationalists tend to have vested commercial interests that benefit from a lack of global integration. I'm thinking more of Trump, Bolsonaro, Orban, or Morawiecki. These are people that spout faux "anti-elite" rhetoric whilst having strong ties with actual global elites. This level of control might occasionally include disappearing individuals when necessary, but is much more subtle and wide-ranging.
  - somebadguy 7y ago
    How are you so fucking dumb? Do you need help to get dressed?
- spodek 7y ago
  Jean Renoir's 1937 movie The Grand Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande_Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande_Illusion treats this issue with subtlety and nuance. Many consider it one of the greatest movies of all time.

gowld 7y ago

It's fascinating how many "nationalist" leaders are privately part of a global elite class, hobnobbing with foreign interests

Mirioron 7y ago
Maybe the reason why they are nationalist is because they see the other global elites and want to avoid them?
- shkkmo 7y ago
  That makes absolutely no sense...
  - Mirioron 7y ago
    Why would that not make sense? They don't want to share control with elites from other countries. If they developed towards a global system then everybody would have to follow the same rules, whereas right now there are different rules, which leads to more opportunities for them to retain their power.
- n4r9 7y ago
  More likely that keeping countries isolated maintains access to tax havens, cheap labour and various other benefits.
  - HenryBemis 7y ago
    Rewording what you wrote. Maybe a dictator can make anyone disappear instantly with no questions asked from within the country. Scrutiny from the outside will only happen if someone is fast enough to leave and open their mouth despite the threat of retaliation/persecution/execution of loved ones (a la North Korea)
    - n4r9 7y ago
      I was thinking more broadly than overt dictators. Right-wing nationalists tend to have vested commercial interests that benefit from a lack of global integration. I'm thinking more of Trump, Bolsonaro, Orban, or Morawiecki. These are people that spout faux "anti-elite" rhetoric whilst having strong ties with actual global elites. This level of control might occasionally include disappearing individuals when necessary, but is much more subtle and wide-ranging.
- somebadguy 7y ago
  How are you so fucking dumb? Do you need help to get dressed?
spodek 7y ago
Jean Renoir's 1937 movie The Grand Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande_Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande_Illusion treats this issue with subtlety and nuance. Many consider it one of the greatest movies of all time.