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Assuming of course that isn't completely fabricated.
by Causality1 7y ago
Assuming of course that isn't completely fabricated.
- peteretep 7y agoWhy would it be completely fabricated?
- Causality1 7y agoBecause it's a legal accusation from an incredibly corrupt industry being leveled at someone who makes a habit of airing their dirty laundry.
- mikeyouse 7y agoDoyen in particular is extremely shady with many of the same people from the scandalous Trump SoHo deal including the man who brought a harem of underaged prostitutes on Atatark's yacht. It's amazing how small the corrupt class actually is and how bad international law enforcement is at stopping the wealthy corrupt. https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/the-football-leaks-family-2-hidden-partnerships-the-family-mafia-and-a-future-u-s-president/ https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/the-football-l... https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks-kazakh-moguls-the-pal-of-donald-trump-teen-models-and-the-yacht-of-the-father-of-the-turks/ https://theblacksea.eu/stories/football-leaks/football-leaks...
- gowld 7y agoIt's fascinating how many "nationalist" leaders are privately part of a global elite class, hobnobbing with foreign interests
- Mirioron 7y agoMaybe the reason why they are nationalist is because they see the other global elites and want to avoid them?
- shkkmo 7y agoThat makes absolutely no sense...
- Mirioron 7y agoWhy would that not make sense? They don't want to share control with elites from other countries. If they developed towards a global system then everybody would have to follow the same rules, whereas right now there are different rules, which leads to more opportunities for them to retain their power.
- n4r9 7y agoMore likely that keeping countries isolated maintains access to tax havens, cheap labour and various other benefits.
- HenryBemis 7y agoRewording what you wrote. Maybe a dictator can make anyone disappear instantly with no questions asked from within the country. Scrutiny from the outside will only happen if someone is fast enough to leave and open their mouth despite the threat of retaliation/persecution/execution of loved ones (a la North Korea)
- n4r9 7y agoI was thinking more broadly than overt dictators. Right-wing nationalists tend to have vested commercial interests that benefit from a lack of global integration. I'm thinking more of Trump, Bolsonaro, Orban, or Morawiecki. These are people that spout faux "anti-elite" rhetoric whilst having strong ties with actual global elites. This level of control might occasionally include disappearing individuals when necessary, but is much more subtle and wide-ranging.
- somebadguy 7y agoHow are you so fucking dumb? Do you need help to get dressed?
- spodek 7y agoJean Renoir's 1937 movie The Grand Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande_Illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande_Illusion treats this issue with subtlety and nuance. Many consider it one of the greatest movies of all time.
- rumanator 7y ago> someone who makes a habit of airing their dirty laundry. It was his livelihood: get some dirt, threaten to release it, demand hefty cash payments as danegeld. It's easy to pass off the last leg of the extorsion campaign as doing public good if you conveniently leave out the long trail of demands for hefty financial gains. And before this fact is brushed under the carpet, do keep in mind that the same suspect also demanded financial payments from media companies to access the content he was supposedly trying to release to the public.
- dmix 7y agoWas there more extortion attempts besides the one he's being charged with (Doyen)?
- AFascistWorld 7y agoThat's a possibility. https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%83%AD%E5%88%A9 https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%83%AD%E5%88%A9 http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2017-05/19/content_29410813.htm http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2017-05/19/content_294108... A case of Chinese toxic baby formula, the company contacted the father after having reached a settlement, to offer him another deal, reportedly 500k dollars, the meeting was recorded, used as evidence in extortion lawsuit against him in the company's local court. The father was jialed for 5 years before exoneration.
- spacemanmatt 7y agoSome guy tried to over-settle with my dad the same way once, and he refused it, but also later found out the guy had a reputation for offering these ridiculous deals then suing for usury.
- AFascistWorld 7y agoThe sum is not small at the time, but it's his baby daughter poisoned along with thousands of others. After their initial settlement of around 60k, the story never ended as other cases came into public attention, so the company wanted to end it as it was at the crucial stage of going public, they can be heard at the beginning of the recording saying "Must get him", but nonetheless, the court in the city where the massive company located ruled him guilty.
- 77pt77 7y ago> suing for usury Is this a thing? Are we in biblical times?
- andrewem 7y agoMany states have laws on maximum interest that can be charged, though at this point there are so many loopholes they basically no longer have any effect. https://statelaws.findlaw.com/consumer-laws/details-on-state-interest-rate-laws.html https://statelaws.findlaw.com/consumer-laws/details-on-state...
- paggle 7y agoThat's true of every crime, if the accusation is completely fabricated then any punishment is of course unjust.
- bnegreve 7y agoBut when one of the two parties is a large group with massive influence, it is more likely to happen.
- rumanator 7y ago> Assuming of course that isn't completely fabricated. The accused had a long history of stealing money from bank accounts through identity forgery. It's hardly a stretch to go from hacking a bank to steal cash to hacking football teams to blackmail them.