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96% of Americans have a cellphone and that require an ID: https://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/ https://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/ Also, g

96% of Americans have a cellphone and that require an ID: https://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/ https://www.pewinternet.org/fact-sheet/mobile/ Also, good guys have IDs to do one of the many things I listed that require IDs including poor people that need an ID for food stamps or medicare or social security. It is actually quite hard to buy a gun as this journalist that thought it was easy found out when trying to buy one: https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-gun-buying-review-virginia-store-2019-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-gun-buying-review-vi...

youeseh 7y ago
Assuming that you're right that 96% have an ID, then what problem are we solving by forcing the other 4% into getting an ID? Is it even a problem? Do you have data to show that it is a real problem? Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFOwlMCdto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFOwlMCdto Btw, you shouldn't mix up Walmart with the government. They aren't. Walmart can structure their customer experience any way they want as long as they aren't breaking the law.
- asabjorn 7y ago
  With the intersection between 96% with cellphones that need an ID and all the other places where an ID is needed the percentage without an ID will be much less than 4%. For instance, it seem fair to assume someone without a cell phone is poor or very old. Such a person would utilize government services that require an ID such as foodstamps, medicaid or medicare or social security.
belltaco 7y ago
>96% of Americans have a cellphone and that require an ID Citation that cellphones need an id?
- trevyn 7y ago
  They don’t. Maybe OP is thinking about postpaid plans?
  - asabjorn 7y ago
    Looking into it seems like only postpaid need ID, and it is hard to come by statistics on post vs pre paid. However, bank accounts require an ID [1] and only 6.5% of the US population was unbanked in 2017 which demonstrates the same point. "If you don’t have a U.S. government-issued SSN or ITIN, some banks and credit unions will accept a passport number and country of issuance, an alien identification card number, or other government-issued ID number." [1] https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/can-i-get-a-checking-account-without-a-social-security-number-en-929/ https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/can-i-get-a-checkin... [2] https://www.fdic.gov/householdsurvey/ https://www.fdic.gov/householdsurvey/

youeseh 7y ago

Assuming that you're right that 96% have an ID, then what problem are we solving by forcing the other 4% into getting an ID? Is it even a problem? Do you have data to show that it is a real problem? Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFOwlMCdto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFOwlMCdto Btw, you shouldn't mix up Walmart with the government. They aren't. Walmart can structure their customer experience any way they want as long as they aren't breaking the law.

asabjorn 7y ago
With the intersection between 96% with cellphones that need an ID and all the other places where an ID is needed the percentage without an ID will be much less than 4%. For instance, it seem fair to assume someone without a cell phone is poor or very old. Such a person would utilize government services that require an ID such as foodstamps, medicaid or medicare or social security.

belltaco 7y ago

>96% of Americans have a cellphone and that require an ID Citation that cellphones need an id?

trevyn 7y ago
They don’t. Maybe OP is thinking about postpaid plans?
- asabjorn 7y ago
  Looking into it seems like only postpaid need ID, and it is hard to come by statistics on post vs pre paid. However, bank accounts require an ID [1] and only 6.5% of the US population was unbanked in 2017 which demonstrates the same point. "If you don’t have a U.S. government-issued SSN or ITIN, some banks and credit unions will accept a passport number and country of issuance, an alien identification card number, or other government-issued ID number." [1] https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/can-i-get-a-checking-account-without-a-social-security-number-en-929/ https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/can-i-get-a-checkin... [2] https://www.fdic.gov/householdsurvey/ https://www.fdic.gov/householdsurvey/