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Homes on stilts are designed to survive major storm. Cat 1 and 2 hurricanes. What is a 1 year rebuild? Are you saying a major hurricane will make landfall every

by paul_f 7y ago

Homes on stilts are designed to survive major storm. Cat 1 and 2 hurricanes. What is a 1 year rebuild? Are you saying a major hurricane will make landfall everywhere, every year? Because that's what you are implying.

Waterluvian 7y ago
I wouldn't fixate on the numbers. The point of the anecdote is that because climate change means more storms more often, the cut-off point for habitability gets shifted.
- mrosett 7y ago
  It hasn't been established that climate change means more storms more often though.
  - TheOtherHobbes 7y ago
    No, but if the regular storms become larger and more destructive, that still affects habitability. https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/ https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/ And the point about more storms hasn't been established yet - which doesn't mean that it won't be established in the future. Given the likelihood of larger storms and the possibility of more frequent storms, living in a storm-prone area becomes a much less appealing idea. The UK has a similar problem. Some properties have been flooded multiple times in the last couple of decades. They're now uninsurable, which is not far off from being uninhabitable. Even if they stay dry for years at a time, it only takes a couple of very expensive renovations to reduce their value towards zero.
- SamReidHughes 7y ago
  It might go from 20 years to 19 years. Or even less. Construction technology will easily outpace changes in storm frequency.
- EdwardDiego 7y ago
  I posted this elsewhere, but: https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/ https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/ > For the 21st century, some models project no change or a small reduction in the frequency of hurricanes, while others show an increase in frequency. More recent work shows a trade-off between intensity and frequency – that as warmer oceans bolster hurricane intensity, fewer storms actually form. For the continental United States in the Atlantic Basin, models project a 45-87 percent increase in the frequency of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes despite a possible decrease in the total frequency of all storms. Which isn't exactly a great thing, but yeah, it's always more complicated.

by paul_f 7y ago

Waterluvian 7y ago

I wouldn't fixate on the numbers. The point of the anecdote is that because climate change means more storms more often, the cut-off point for habitability gets shifted.

mrosett 7y ago
It hasn't been established that climate change means more storms more often though.
- TheOtherHobbes 7y ago
  No, but if the regular storms become larger and more destructive, that still affects habitability. https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/ https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/ And the point about more storms hasn't been established yet - which doesn't mean that it won't be established in the future. Given the likelihood of larger storms and the possibility of more frequent storms, living in a storm-prone area becomes a much less appealing idea. The UK has a similar problem. Some properties have been flooded multiple times in the last couple of decades. They're now uninsurable, which is not far off from being uninhabitable. Even if they stay dry for years at a time, it only takes a couple of very expensive renovations to reduce their value towards zero.
SamReidHughes 7y ago
It might go from 20 years to 19 years. Or even less. Construction technology will easily outpace changes in storm frequency.
EdwardDiego 7y ago
I posted this elsewhere, but: https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/ https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes-and-climate-change/ > For the 21st century, some models project no change or a small reduction in the frequency of hurricanes, while others show an increase in frequency. More recent work shows a trade-off between intensity and frequency – that as warmer oceans bolster hurricane intensity, fewer storms actually form. For the continental United States in the Atlantic Basin, models project a 45-87 percent increase in the frequency of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes despite a possible decrease in the total frequency of all storms. Which isn't exactly a great thing, but yeah, it's always more complicated.