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So has acid rain an the Ozone layer depletion. None of them killed me even though everyone in those days used the same vague scare tactics at one point I litera

by kls 7y ago

So has acid rain an the Ozone layer depletion. None of them killed me even though everyone in those days used the same vague scare tactics at one point I literally had months to live in the 1970;s due to acid rain. Pesticides and fertilizer in the sea is going to, in at least my children's lifetime. I am literately watching the ocean die every day and it is due to what we are pumping into the ocean.

qw 7y ago
The Ozone layer was improved by both politicians and the general public working together to reduce harmful chemicals. It is actually one of the great success stories where people worked together. Even the most conservative leaders in the West at the time, such as Ronald Reagan and Margaret Tatcher saw the threat and responded with action. One could argue it was not so hard as fighting carbon emissions, because the general public had alternatives they could switch to without noticing much difference. It probably also helped that Margaret Tatcher actually was an educated chemist who could listen to the scientists
yardie 7y ago
The depletion if the ozone layer was a real threat in my lifetime. It’s only through concerted global action that we were able to not only stop but reverse the depletion. AGW is different in that even though the science agreed we still have politicians who are convinced it’s not a big deal.
- kls 7y ago
  just wanted to make sure that I noted that I was not implying that they where not, both acid rain and ozone depletion where real issues, they where also issues that where overblown in their day. My intent was to highlight that AGW is just as overblown and exploited as they where in their day. Attributing Hurricane cycles to AGW is nonsense. Anyone that has lived in a hurricane prone area for more than 2 decades knows we are heading into another active cycle. I mean it's an absolutely known thing: http://www.davidmcminn.com/p2/956hurricanes.htm http://www.davidmcminn.com/p2/956hurricanes.htm https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/1520-0442%281999%29012%3C0427%3AFINAHF%3E2.0.CO%3B2 https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/1520-0442%2819... and it was well known by the old timers before anyone put any science behind it. And is pretty much tribal knowledge to anyone that is a long time Florida resident.

by kls 7y ago

qw 7y ago

The Ozone layer was improved by both politicians and the general public working together to reduce harmful chemicals. It is actually one of the great success stories where people worked together. Even the most conservative leaders in the West at the time, such as Ronald Reagan and Margaret Tatcher saw the threat and responded with action. One could argue it was not so hard as fighting carbon emissions, because the general public had alternatives they could switch to without noticing much difference. It probably also helped that Margaret Tatcher actually was an educated chemist who could listen to the scientists

yardie 7y ago

The depletion if the ozone layer was a real threat in my lifetime. It’s only through concerted global action that we were able to not only stop but reverse the depletion. AGW is different in that even though the science agreed we still have politicians who are convinced it’s not a big deal.

kls 7y ago
just wanted to make sure that I noted that I was not implying that they where not, both acid rain and ozone depletion where real issues, they where also issues that where overblown in their day. My intent was to highlight that AGW is just as overblown and exploited as they where in their day. Attributing Hurricane cycles to AGW is nonsense. Anyone that has lived in a hurricane prone area for more than 2 decades knows we are heading into another active cycle. I mean it's an absolutely known thing: http://www.davidmcminn.com/p2/956hurricanes.htm http://www.davidmcminn.com/p2/956hurricanes.htm https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/1520-0442%281999%29012%3C0427%3AFINAHF%3E2.0.CO%3B2 https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/1520-0442%2819... and it was well known by the old timers before anyone put any science behind it. And is pretty much tribal knowledge to anyone that is a long time Florida resident.