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How much weight do you think they put in polygraphs? The bulk of the work polygraphs do is encouraging people to admit past deeds. Things a person has done in

by LanceH 7y ago

How much weight do you think they put in polygraphs? The bulk of the work polygraphs do is encouraging people to admit past deeds. Things a person has done in the past are rarely disqualifying. Hiding them is. The polygraph encourages the candidate to be forthcoming. It's not just the polygraph they are facing, but the background investigation as well. How well do you can lie in front of an investigator (with or without a polygraph) when you know they have been talking to past associates/neighbors/friends? And what is your goal in lying? Getting one over on the stupid military complex. Maybe, just maybe, they aren't as stupid as you think they are.

stallmanite 7y ago
Why use a known fraudulent technique? Explain why it’s more beneficial than just thoroughly vetting and interviewing/interrogating candidates. It’s embarrassing. Edit: It’s odd how you seem to be trying to make this a personal/emotional thing about wanting to lie to the MIC, etc. If I was a huge supporter of the intelligence community I’d want them to quit wasting time, money, and credibility on an ineffective scam. Also I explicitly stated that I’m not particularly intelligent so why you are painting me as a know-it-all for daring to question this practice. Enlighten me, please.
- mc32 7y ago
  Wonder why they haven replaced it with fMRI? It can’t be worse.
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- nyolfen 7y ago
  why do cops interrogate people instead of just investigating them?
  - stallmanite 7y ago
    Interrogation is a real thing that works. Scientology e-meter type bs is not.
    - __s 7y ago
      Quite a few people will become stressed out just having their blood pressure taken. Stress makes people trip up if you're trying to interrogate them
    - nyolfen 7y ago
      lie detectors are interrogation tools. their actual efficacy is secondary to perceived
stefan_ 7y ago
Yes, every time this is mentioned someone comes up with some through-the-eye way of "how this is actually very brilliant and you are too stupid to see it". And then another leak happens, and there they are, the gaudy PowerPoint slides, the shitty Java enterprise software, the scuffed up abominations of open source tools, none of the supposed magic is anywhere to be found. No, I'm sure the real magic is just really well hidden!
- smileypete 7y ago
  The NSA actually shamelessly 'stole' the prism logo off the web: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/12/nsa_logo_scandal/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/12/nsa_logo_scandal/ Now it appears they're issuing a takedown for someone trying to sell a few t-shirts featuring it: https://gawker.com/the-nsa-sent-a-takedown-notice-over-my-custom-prism-log-512085836 https://gawker.com/the-nsa-sent-a-takedown-notice-over-my-cu... Hardly inspires confidence does it...? :-)

by LanceH 7y ago

stallmanite 7y ago

Why use a known fraudulent technique? Explain why it’s more beneficial than just thoroughly vetting and interviewing/interrogating candidates. It’s embarrassing. Edit: It’s odd how you seem to be trying to make this a personal/emotional thing about wanting to lie to the MIC, etc. If I was a huge supporter of the intelligence community I’d want them to quit wasting time, money, and credibility on an ineffective scam. Also I explicitly stated that I’m not particularly intelligent so why you are painting me as a know-it-all for daring to question this practice. Enlighten me, please.

mc32 7y ago
Wonder why they haven replaced it with fMRI? It can’t be worse.
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nyolfen 7y ago
why do cops interrogate people instead of just investigating them?
- stallmanite 7y ago
  Interrogation is a real thing that works. Scientology e-meter type bs is not.
  - __s 7y ago
    Quite a few people will become stressed out just having their blood pressure taken. Stress makes people trip up if you're trying to interrogate them
  - nyolfen 7y ago
    lie detectors are interrogation tools. their actual efficacy is secondary to perceived

stefan_ 7y ago

Yes, every time this is mentioned someone comes up with some through-the-eye way of "how this is actually very brilliant and you are too stupid to see it". And then another leak happens, and there they are, the gaudy PowerPoint slides, the shitty Java enterprise software, the scuffed up abominations of open source tools, none of the supposed magic is anywhere to be found. No, I'm sure the real magic is just really well hidden!

smileypete 7y ago
The NSA actually shamelessly 'stole' the prism logo off the web: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/12/nsa_logo_scandal/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/12/nsa_logo_scandal/ Now it appears they're issuing a takedown for someone trying to sell a few t-shirts featuring it: https://gawker.com/the-nsa-sent-a-takedown-notice-over-my-custom-prism-log-512085836 https://gawker.com/the-nsa-sent-a-takedown-notice-over-my-cu... Hardly inspires confidence does it...? :-)