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I doubt the unionizing HCL workers would appreciate the remedy that some people here are proposing. People are saying to terminate the contract with HC

I doubt the unionizing HCL workers would appreciate the remedy that some people here are proposing. People are saying to terminate the contract with HCL. What? What good would that do? If there are no consequences for union-busting then what? This is the same question for US companies that do overseas human rights compliance audits on their supply chains, it is true that if a supplier fails the people being mistreated lose their jobs, but if the threat of losing the contract does not exist the managers have every incentive to simply cheat and lie and then apologize when they get caught. The willingness to lose your employment in the battle for labour fairness in an important element of organized labour, it is that sort of solidarity that gives you the leverage you need to win.

asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
I 100% guarantee you that if Google were to try to terminate the contract over this, people would be claiming that Google is anti-union and that that itself constituted a form of union-busting. The proper way to handle something like this would be to have penalties in the contract for illegal behavior on the part of the contracting company that reflects poorly on Google.
- JamisonM 7y ago
  I 100% guarantee you don't know that this would be the case. If the correct way is penalties then the correct course of action for the subcontractor would be to try to not get caught, there are penalties for union busting tactics already, and that is not stopping them. It would be easy for google to do things to make it clear that they do not oppose unions: Steve Gyrgo has worked with HCL for two years. He says he is not against unions as a whole, but he is worried that after forming a union, Google might want to work with another contracting firm. Google can just put out a press release that says that union shops are welcome to be google subcontractors and that they as a company will have minimum compensation guidelines for subcontractors to show they are committed to people being fairly compensated for their work.
- KirinDave 7y ago
  I am sure anti-union folks would spread that propaganda, yes.

asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago

I 100% guarantee you that if Google were to try to terminate the contract over this, people would be claiming that Google is anti-union and that that itself constituted a form of union-busting. The proper way to handle something like this would be to have penalties in the contract for illegal behavior on the part of the contracting company that reflects poorly on Google.

JamisonM 7y ago
I 100% guarantee you don't know that this would be the case. If the correct way is penalties then the correct course of action for the subcontractor would be to try to not get caught, there are penalties for union busting tactics already, and that is not stopping them. It would be easy for google to do things to make it clear that they do not oppose unions: Steve Gyrgo has worked with HCL for two years. He says he is not against unions as a whole, but he is worried that after forming a union, Google might want to work with another contracting firm. Google can just put out a press release that says that union shops are welcome to be google subcontractors and that they as a company will have minimum compensation guidelines for subcontractors to show they are committed to people being fairly compensated for their work.
KirinDave 7y ago
I am sure anti-union folks would spread that propaganda, yes.