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> brilliant Principia Mathematica Hang on : Über formal unentscheidbare Sätze der Principia Mathematica und verwandter Systeme I !!! You can be as brilliant as

by sgt101 7y ago

> brilliant Principia Mathematica Hang on : Über formal unentscheidbare Sätze der Principia Mathematica und verwandter Systeme I !!! You can be as brilliant as you like, but if you are fundamentally wrong (which Russell and Whitehead were) then you get knocked off your perch. Still, I guess that they were in good company. Bertrand Russell was a wonderful man, but I still smile when I think of the Principia and the essay he wrote nine years after Godel blew it up :"Why Mr. Hitler will not invade Russia" I think that reason that Wittgenstein is still taught is that there are ideas in there that have not been successfully extended or refuted, except sometimes by Wittgenstein, and even then... Debatably! Also his "approach" is still used by many people. If the GP thinks Wittgenstein is a vandal I wonder what he makes of Derrida and the other French lunatics; if you want to see where philosophy (and politics and literature) were crippled Paris in the 60's and Yale & Irvine in the 70's would be good places to start. One of it's legacies is the constant and ongoing attack on science - I blame Derrida for climate change denial!* * I know - this is an act of pure spite, but old people need their fun, and he's dead, and anyway, his friends would just deconstruct my sentence to show that in fact I'm not blaming anyone, blame is not a real concept, things cannot be denied, there is no climate and things can't change.

dvt 7y ago
> Bertrand Russell was a wonderful man, but I still smile when I think of the Principia and the essay he wrote nine years after Godel blew it up I purposefully put them both up there! Russell was wrong (and, on a personal level, his atheistic slant profoundly annoys me), but he had a coherent and laudable plan -- he was the logical positivists' spearhead. Godel, of course, blew that whole plan up, but it was a plan nonetheless. > If the GP thinks Wittgenstein is a vandal I wonder what he makes of Derrida and the other French lunatics; In line with the analytic tradition, I wasn't much exposed to the "French lunatics" (thankfully). Nietzsche was bad enough†. † I actually quite like some of Nietzsche, but the prose is atrocious.

by sgt101 7y ago

dvt 7y ago

> Bertrand Russell was a wonderful man, but I still smile when I think of the Principia and the essay he wrote nine years after Godel blew it up I purposefully put them both up there! Russell was wrong (and, on a personal level, his atheistic slant profoundly annoys me), but he had a coherent and laudable plan -- he was the logical positivists' spearhead. Godel, of course, blew that whole plan up, but it was a plan nonetheless. > If the GP thinks Wittgenstein is a vandal I wonder what he makes of Derrida and the other French lunatics; In line with the analytic tradition, I wasn't much exposed to the "French lunatics" (thankfully). Nietzsche was bad enough†. † I actually quite like some of Nietzsche, but the prose is atrocious.