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I believe you’ve hit the nail on the head with this. This is the most accurate and succinct way to show how this looks.

ng12 7y ago
Godwin's Law is supposed to demonstrate the reductive nature of comparing everything to Nazism, it's supposed to be a logical fallacy.
- shakezula 7y ago
  Except for we're not comparing "everything" to Nazism. We're comparing an organization running concentration camps to another organization that ran concentration camps.
  - ng12 7y ago
    The lazy mis-characterization of our border facilities as concentration camps is exactly what I'm talking about, while also being a wildly inappropriate comparison in a country with many Holocaust survivors.
    - alxp 7y ago
      "Our ancestors died because as Germany built towards genocide, companies like IBM powered & profited from their persecution https://twitter.com/NeverAgainActn/status/1169743707689668609 https://twitter.com/NeverAgainActn/status/116974370768966860...
    - shakezula 7y ago
      "wildly inappropriate" Okay dude. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/they-are-concentration-camps/2019/06/28/b70a72c4-9847-11e9-9a16-dc551ea5a43b_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/they-are-concentrati...
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  Mr. Godwin would like a word: https://web.archive.org/web/20170814022147/https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154965671861483&id=1 https://web.archive.org/web/20170814022147/https://m.faceboo... https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/sure-call-trump-a-nazi-just-make-sure-you-know-what-youre-talking-about/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/...
  - ng12 7y ago
    I don't think you can retroactively change the meaning of a point you made decades earlier.
    - dredmorbius 7y ago
      Get back to me in a quarter century.
      - ng12 7y ago
        Fair enough -- and if I claim that my statement doesn't actually apply to specific future circumstances in a way that supports my current personal beliefs feel free to ignore me.
sdinsn 7y ago
Except it's not. ICE is not the Third Reich, period.
- shakezula 7y ago
  Except ICE is doing the same thing as the Third Reich - running concentration camps.
  - whenchamenia 7y ago
    This is delusional at best, but i suspect just blatantly dishonest.
    - shakezula 7y ago
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/they-are-concentration-camps/2019/06/28/b70a72c4-9847-11e9-9a16-dc551ea5a43b_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/they-are-concentrati... Sure, I'm the dishonest one.
  - dazilcher 7y ago
    That's a ridiculous statement. Not just dishonest, but totally offensive to a certain ethnic group. Please consider your words next time.
    - shakezula 7y ago
      Right, that's why this group is totally fine with our treatment of detainees in these camps. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/never-again-means-close-camps-jews-protest-ice-across-country-n1029386 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/never-again-means-close...

ng12 7y ago

Godwin's Law is supposed to demonstrate the reductive nature of comparing everything to Nazism, it's supposed to be a logical fallacy.

shakezula 7y ago
Except for we're not comparing "everything" to Nazism. We're comparing an organization running concentration camps to another organization that ran concentration camps.
- ng12 7y ago
  The lazy mis-characterization of our border facilities as concentration camps is exactly what I'm talking about, while also being a wildly inappropriate comparison in a country with many Holocaust survivors.
  - alxp 7y ago
    "Our ancestors died because as Germany built towards genocide, companies like IBM powered & profited from their persecution https://twitter.com/NeverAgainActn/status/1169743707689668609 https://twitter.com/NeverAgainActn/status/116974370768966860...
  - shakezula 7y ago
    "wildly inappropriate" Okay dude. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/they-are-concentration-camps/2019/06/28/b70a72c4-9847-11e9-9a16-dc551ea5a43b_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/they-are-concentrati...
dredmorbius 7y ago
Mr. Godwin would like a word: https://web.archive.org/web/20170814022147/https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154965671861483&id=1 https://web.archive.org/web/20170814022147/https://m.faceboo... https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/sure-call-trump-a-nazi-just-make-sure-you-know-what-youre-talking-about/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/...
- ng12 7y ago
  I don't think you can retroactively change the meaning of a point you made decades earlier.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    Get back to me in a quarter century.
    - ng12 7y ago
      Fair enough -- and if I claim that my statement doesn't actually apply to specific future circumstances in a way that supports my current personal beliefs feel free to ignore me.

sdinsn 7y ago

Except it's not. ICE is not the Third Reich, period.

shakezula 7y ago
Except ICE is doing the same thing as the Third Reich - running concentration camps.
- whenchamenia 7y ago
  This is delusional at best, but i suspect just blatantly dishonest.
  - shakezula 7y ago
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/they-are-concentration-camps/2019/06/28/b70a72c4-9847-11e9-9a16-dc551ea5a43b_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/they-are-concentrati... Sure, I'm the dishonest one.
- dazilcher 7y ago
  That's a ridiculous statement. Not just dishonest, but totally offensive to a certain ethnic group. Please consider your words next time.
  - shakezula 7y ago
    Right, that's why this group is totally fine with our treatment of detainees in these camps. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/never-again-means-close-camps-jews-protest-ice-across-country-n1029386 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/never-again-means-close...