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Terrible response, companies totally can pick and choose who they work with and who their customers are. > I want to be clear that this decision is not about c

by notus 7y ago

Terrible response, companies totally can pick and choose who they work with and who their customers are. > I want to be clear that this decision is not about contract value — it is about maintaining a consistent and fair business approach in these volatile times. Doublespeak for, this decision is 100% about contract value. I am interested more in the former employee that removed the ruby gem though. Cool form of protest IMO.

shakezula 7y ago
exactly, especially when the sentence before it mentions he worked with their executive team to make the decision. This is entirely about money. > former employee that removed the ruby gem I hadn’t heard of this, do you have a link to that by chance?
- notus 7y ago
  Here is the developer's statement: https://github.com/sethvargo/chef-sugar https://github.com/sethvargo/chef-sugar Article: https://www.zdnet.com/article/developer-takes-down-ruby-library-after-he-finds-out-ice-was-using-it/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/developer-takes-down-ruby-libr... Note this is the same developer who left Chef in 2014 because he received death threats from their open source community.
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weare138 7y ago
Calling that a terrible answer is a little extreme. It's a really complicated issue and I'd be lying if I said I had the answer to it. Would you agree that religious fundamentalists should have the right to deny services to people they find morally objectionable? Should a medical service provider deny LGBTQ people vital services because they "morally" object to it? Obviously not. What if landing a contract like this is the only way to keep the business financially afloat? Laying off employees also has moral implications. Should we single out this company when major tech companies like Microsoft have contracts with ICE? Why aren't we boycotting MS over this? Personally I don't agree with Chef's decision and sure as hell don't agree with ICE. Seriously, f*ck ICE. I'm descended from immigrants. It's a free country and anyone who thinks I shouldn't be here or any other immigrant for that matter is free to kiss my Irish ass. I just don't agree this is the way to change things. We should be fighting for what's right ourselves rather then admonishing someone else for not doing it for us but if we are going to admonish corporations for their associations with ICE, it should be all of them.

by notus 7y ago

shakezula 7y ago

exactly, especially when the sentence before it mentions he worked with their executive team to make the decision. This is entirely about money. > former employee that removed the ruby gem I hadn’t heard of this, do you have a link to that by chance?

notus 7y ago
Here is the developer's statement: https://github.com/sethvargo/chef-sugar https://github.com/sethvargo/chef-sugar Article: https://www.zdnet.com/article/developer-takes-down-ruby-library-after-he-finds-out-ice-was-using-it/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/developer-takes-down-ruby-libr... Note this is the same developer who left Chef in 2014 because he received death threats from their open source community.
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weare138 7y ago

Calling that a terrible answer is a little extreme. It's a really complicated issue and I'd be lying if I said I had the answer to it. Would you agree that religious fundamentalists should have the right to deny services to people they find morally objectionable? Should a medical service provider deny LGBTQ people vital services because they "morally" object to it? Obviously not. What if landing a contract like this is the only way to keep the business financially afloat? Laying off employees also has moral implications. Should we single out this company when major tech companies like Microsoft have contracts with ICE? Why aren't we boycotting MS over this? Personally I don't agree with Chef's decision and sure as hell don't agree with ICE. Seriously, f*ck ICE. I'm descended from immigrants. It's a free country and anyone who thinks I shouldn't be here or any other immigrant for that matter is free to kiss my Irish ass. I just don't agree this is the way to change things. We should be fighting for what's right ourselves rather then admonishing someone else for not doing it for us but if we are going to admonish corporations for their associations with ICE, it should be all of them.