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This ruling sounds like it should apply to mobile apps too. I wonder what Apple and Google think about that.

by fyfy18 7y ago

loceng 7y ago
I like that idea. I could see it leading to people having to upgrade to pay for improved versions, whether that's to fix bugs or new features added - which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I do wonder what interplay will exist or evolve related to subscription models though.
briandear 7y ago
Perhaps this ruling should apply to airplane tickets as well? I wonder what Air France thinks about that? And Eurail passes -- those are issued to a specific traveler, it seems like the inability to sell your Eurail pass is violating this decision as well. I wonder what the French railroads think about that? Under the logic of this court decision, I should be able to buy a Eurail pass, ride on a train, mail it to a friend, the friend pays me for the pass, then that friend can take the train, then re-sells it to me, then I can use it, and so on. Right? Isn't that what this decision is saying? > According to EU law, all goods, including software, can be sold used without the permission of the maker or the original seller If we want to argue that a train ride is a service and not a "good," that logic would apply to software as well -- software isn't a physical "thing" but a collection of information that permits some action (i.e. playing a game.) Just like a Eurail pass is a collection of information that permits some action (i.e. riding a train.) I think the courts in Europe, especially in old-economy countries that have a strong-anti-tech sentiment might ought to be a bit mindful of the unintended consequences of their decisions.
- joemi 7y ago
  > Under the logic of this court decision, I should be able to buy a Eurail pass, ride on a train, mail it to a friend, the friend pays me for the pass, then that friend can take the train, then re-sells it to me, then I can use it, and so on. Right? Isn't that what this decision is saying? Since when was a train ride considered "goods"? Pretty sure a train ride is a "service" and not "goods".
  - henryfjordan 7y ago
    Maybe a single ticket is a service, but what about a "season pass" type ticket? That's the right to ride as many trains as you want. A right to a service isn't a service.
    - bjelkeman-again 7y ago
      My season pass for the commuter train can be used by anyone I give it to.
- pnako 7y ago
  It's not really an anti-tech ruling; more a pro-consumer one.

This ruling sounds like it should apply to mobile apps too. I wonder what Apple and Google think about that.

by fyfy18 7y ago

This ruling sounds like it should apply to mobile apps too. I wonder what Apple and Google think about that.

I like that idea. I could see it leading to people having to upgrade to pay for improved versions, whether that's to fix bugs or new features added - which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I do wonder what interplay will exist or evolve related to subscription models though.

briandear 7y ago

Perhaps this ruling should apply to airplane tickets as well? I wonder what Air France thinks about that? And Eurail passes -- those are issued to a specific traveler, it seems like the inability to sell your Eurail pass is violating this decision as well. I wonder what the French railroads think about that? Under the logic of this court decision, I should be able to buy a Eurail pass, ride on a train, mail it to a friend, the friend pays me for the pass, then that friend can take the train, then re-sells it to me, then I can use it, and so on. Right? Isn't that what this decision is saying? > According to EU law, all goods, including software, can be sold used without the permission of the maker or the original seller If we want to argue that a train ride is a service and not a "good," that logic would apply to software as well -- software isn't a physical "thing" but a collection of information that permits some action (i.e. playing a game.) Just like a Eurail pass is a collection of information that permits some action (i.e. riding a train.) I think the courts in Europe, especially in old-economy countries that have a strong-anti-tech sentiment might ought to be a bit mindful of the unintended consequences of their decisions.

joemi 7y ago
> Under the logic of this court decision, I should be able to buy a Eurail pass, ride on a train, mail it to a friend, the friend pays me for the pass, then that friend can take the train, then re-sells it to me, then I can use it, and so on. Right? Isn't that what this decision is saying? Since when was a train ride considered "goods"? Pretty sure a train ride is a "service" and not "goods".
- henryfjordan 7y ago
  Maybe a single ticket is a service, but what about a "season pass" type ticket? That's the right to ride as many trains as you want. A right to a service isn't a service.
  - bjelkeman-again 7y ago
    My season pass for the commuter train can be used by anyone I give it to.
pnako 7y ago
It's not really an anti-tech ruling; more a pro-consumer one.