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This is perfect example of mob mentality in action. At no point Stallman was defending sex with minors. And yet, here you are, extremely offended at him for so

by kjksf 7y ago

This is perfect example of mob mentality in action. At no point Stallman was defending sex with minors. And yet, here you are, extremely offended at him for something he didn't say.

CPLX 7y ago
"I think it is morally absurd to define 'rape' in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17." "I think that everyone age 14 or above ought to take part in sex, though not indiscriminately. (Some people are ready earlier.)" "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily [sic] pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing." - Richard Stallman Source: https://www.npr.org/2019/09/17/761718975/free-software-pioneer-quits-mit-over-his-comments-on-epstein-sex-trafficking-cas https://www.npr.org/2019/09/17/761718975/free-software-pione...
- tzs 7y ago
  The first quote isn't defending sex with minors. It's criticizing inconsistent definitions of minor. Do you disagree that it makes no sense morally for, say a 19 year old and 17 year old having sex together to be OK in one place, and rape if they had first moved a few feet over, if that movement happens to cross a border where the laws change?
- scooble 7y ago
  As I understand it, the latter 2 quotes are now rather old and Stallman has publicly renounced those views. While I'm sure it wasn't your intention, a casual reader of your post might get the impression that they were all part of the conversation he appears to have been fired for.
- NotATroll 7y ago
  Don't forget the good old. > The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness. Source: https://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html https://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html Just ctrl+f for necro. You'll find it.

by kjksf 7y ago

This is perfect example of mob mentality in action. At no point Stallman was defending sex with minors. And yet, here you are, extremely offended at him for something he didn't say.

CPLX 7y ago

"I think it is morally absurd to define 'rape' in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17." "I think that everyone age 14 or above ought to take part in sex, though not indiscriminately. (Some people are ready earlier.)" "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily [sic] pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing." - Richard Stallman Source: https://www.npr.org/2019/09/17/761718975/free-software-pioneer-quits-mit-over-his-comments-on-epstein-sex-trafficking-cas https://www.npr.org/2019/09/17/761718975/free-software-pione...

tzs 7y ago
The first quote isn't defending sex with minors. It's criticizing inconsistent definitions of minor. Do you disagree that it makes no sense morally for, say a 19 year old and 17 year old having sex together to be OK in one place, and rape if they had first moved a few feet over, if that movement happens to cross a border where the laws change?
scooble 7y ago
As I understand it, the latter 2 quotes are now rather old and Stallman has publicly renounced those views. While I'm sure it wasn't your intention, a casual reader of your post might get the impression that they were all part of the conversation he appears to have been fired for.
NotATroll 7y ago
Don't forget the good old. > The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness. Source: https://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html https://stallman.org/archives/2003-may-aug.html Just ctrl+f for necro. You'll find it.