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The pricing is more complicated than that. There is no way to buy a Model 3 at 35K$ in Europe. In France for instance, the minimum price is a whopping 48K€. Sou
by Darkstryder 7y ago
The pricing is more complicated than that. There is no way to buy a Model 3 at 35K$ in Europe. In France for instance, the minimum price is a whopping 48K€. Source : I wanted to buy a Model 3 in France.
- 35K$ is actually 39K$, excluding the off the menu version. You can't buy a Model 3 without Autopilot anymore, even though I don't care about Autopilot. And I'm not even sure you can buy the "off the menu" version of the Model 3 in France. So the base price is 39K$ which is 35.4K€.
- You add the Trump tariffs, eg 10%. Model 3 is now 38.9K€.
- In France (Europe ?) all prices are after VAT, which are again 20%. Model 3 is now 46.7K€.
- Tesla adds a couple grands to the price to move the car overseas. The least expensive price available in France is 48 600 €.
- They pre-deduce the French carbon bonus (6K€) so they can say they sell the Model 3 at 42 600 €, which is a lie.
In France the median price for new cars is around 27K€. In my opinion there is clearly room for electric vehicles priced between 27K€ (median) and 48.6K€ (Model 3 before carbon bonus).
After being very disappointed with the Model 3 French pricing, I'm currently interested in the Nissan Leaf. I will now also follow what Volkswagen is doing with the ID.3.
- Xixi 7y agoPedantic maybe, but the 10% is not the Trump tariff, but the EU tariff. As far as I know it predates Trump's election and various trade wars.
- Darkstryder 7y agoNot pedantic, thank you for this info. I was under the impression this tariff existed because of the trade wars. The bad news is that it is less likely to be removed once Trump is out of office :-(
- Xixi 7y agoUS tariffs are 2.5% on cars and 25% on light trucks, while in the EU it is 10% on both. Most vehicles (66% [1]) sold in the US fall under the light-truck category. What Trump has threatened to do is to impose a 25% tariff not only on cars, but maybe more importantly also on auto parts. So far it has not happened. [1] https://www.aei.org/publication/the-anti-consumer-25-chicken-tax-on-imported-trucks-has-insulated-the-big-3-from-foreign-competition-for-50-years/ https://www.aei.org/publication/the-anti-consumer-25-chicken...
- petre 7y agoHe's still threatening both the EU and Japan with the 25% car tariff. If the EU fails to negotiate in a timely manner it will get hit with the vehicle tariff.