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Every minute spent not fighting climate apocalypse is a fucking waste of time. And I waste most of my time, because I can't find a way to fight while staying so

Every minute spent not fighting climate apocalypse is a fucking waste of time. And I waste most of my time, because I can't find a way to fight while staying solvent (this month I'm buying a roof to fix the leaky one, for instance). In another thread the clathrate gun is about to go off big time https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21026051 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21026051 Anxiety is pretty warranted when you're literally looking at the end of civilization, and possibly an early, horrible death for you, or infinitely more sadly, your kid.

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BurningFrog 7y ago
The world isn't ending. It's probably not a bad idea for you to talk to someone.
Ascetik 7y ago
>Every minute spent not fighting climate apocalypse is a bleep waste of time. Are you being serious? I genuinely can't tell.
thatfrenchguy 7y ago
Careful about the “end of civilization”, global warming is the most important challenge of our generation but media outlet sensationalism exaggerate a lot of things (notably the clathrate gun and other things, which are not widely accepted). Read the last IPCC reports instead of randos from the internet: https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/ https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/
- CalRobert 7y ago
  Thanks - my concern is that the IPCC reports appear to be too conservative, possibly not modeling feedback effects enough. We're tracking around the worst case scenarios presented in the 2015 report so far.
  - thatfrenchguy 7y ago
    It is of course a valid concern, but reading those reports page-to-page don't show too much conservatism to me (as in, they expose how bad a situation we are in while being not-too-catastrophic). You may also want to read the individual papers that are backing those reports, they're also super informative`.
algaeontoast 7y ago
Mods can we take care of this? I think this person genuinely needs help or this post was made by a troll. If you view the world this way - you should know it's not productive to the causes you've listed or your mental health. If this isn't a troll post you should seek some kind of help.
- vinceguidry 7y ago
  Please don't ask whether users are trolling. If there is a violation of the guidelines please flag the comment. HN has two full time moderators that interact with the community regularly. But nobody likes being called a troll.
- CalRobert 7y ago
  I am sincere.
cableshaft 7y ago
You might find this CNN article about a 16 year old Greta Thunberg speaking with Congress and what all she's doing about climate change interesting. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/us/greta-thunberg-profile-weir/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/us/greta-thunberg-profile-wei... Some quotes that stuck out to me: In response to a representative asking how to get more kids involved: "Just tell them the truth," she said. "Tell them how it is. Because when I found out how it actually is, it made me furious." "Adults keep saying we owe it to the young people to give them hope. But I don't want your hope. I want you to panic." But it also fuels a righteous frustration that she even needs to justify her obsession. "It's not because (climate change) is especially interesting," she said, rolling her eyes. "It's a matter of life and death."
- CalRobert 7y ago
  Thanks, that is indeed interesting. I think part of the appeal of her message is that she resists the infantilizing, condescending BS politicians try to dump on her with remarkable skill.

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BurningFrog 7y ago

The world isn't ending. It's probably not a bad idea for you to talk to someone.

Ascetik 7y ago

>Every minute spent not fighting climate apocalypse is a bleep waste of time. Are you being serious? I genuinely can't tell.

thatfrenchguy 7y ago

Careful about the “end of civilization”, global warming is the most important challenge of our generation but media outlet sensationalism exaggerate a lot of things (notably the clathrate gun and other things, which are not widely accepted). Read the last IPCC reports instead of randos from the internet: https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/ https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/

CalRobert 7y ago
Thanks - my concern is that the IPCC reports appear to be too conservative, possibly not modeling feedback effects enough. We're tracking around the worst case scenarios presented in the 2015 report so far.
- thatfrenchguy 7y ago
  It is of course a valid concern, but reading those reports page-to-page don't show too much conservatism to me (as in, they expose how bad a situation we are in while being not-too-catastrophic). You may also want to read the individual papers that are backing those reports, they're also super informative`.

algaeontoast 7y ago

Mods can we take care of this? I think this person genuinely needs help or this post was made by a troll. If you view the world this way - you should know it's not productive to the causes you've listed or your mental health. If this isn't a troll post you should seek some kind of help.

vinceguidry 7y ago
Please don't ask whether users are trolling. If there is a violation of the guidelines please flag the comment. HN has two full time moderators that interact with the community regularly. But nobody likes being called a troll.
CalRobert 7y ago
I am sincere.

cableshaft 7y ago

You might find this CNN article about a 16 year old Greta Thunberg speaking with Congress and what all she's doing about climate change interesting. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/us/greta-thunberg-profile-weir/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/us/greta-thunberg-profile-wei... Some quotes that stuck out to me: In response to a representative asking how to get more kids involved: "Just tell them the truth," she said. "Tell them how it is. Because when I found out how it actually is, it made me furious." "Adults keep saying we owe it to the young people to give them hope. But I don't want your hope. I want you to panic." But it also fuels a righteous frustration that she even needs to justify her obsession. "It's not because (climate change) is especially interesting," she said, rolling her eyes. "It's a matter of life and death."

CalRobert 7y ago
Thanks, that is indeed interesting. I think part of the appeal of her message is that she resists the infantilizing, condescending BS politicians try to dump on her with remarkable skill.