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Another problem is that the court probably means that you can resell games for real currency. Currently you can buy games with the Steam currency, which means t

Another problem is that the court probably means that you can resell games for real currency. Currently you can buy games with the Steam currency, which means that reselling games is a legit method of piping out real currency from Steam.

zouhair 7y ago
How is that?
- ihuman 7y ago
  If you sell items from certain games (like CSGO) or redeem a gift card, you get credit applied to your steam account. This can be used to purchase games, then you could (hypothetically) sell them for real-world cash.
  - zouhair 7y ago
    Well yeah. But if they are forced to allow reselling of games, I bet they won't allow that. Only games you bought with real money could be resold. They can set more rules too.
strig 7y ago
They wouldn't necessarily need to implement that though, just a way of transferring licences to someone else. People could figure out their own payment.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  There's the problem of needing escrow for selling the game in that scenario; if, say, they implement game resale as "You can ask Steam to cut your access and give you a unique code someone else can enter to gain access," there's the problem that if I buy that code from you, I have no knowledge of if it'll actually work when I get home (maybe you sold it twice?). ... and then Steam can offer payment via their in-store currency (with x% shaved off the top) to basically serve as an escrow intermediary. Win-win for everyone except the developers deprived of first-sales by the new resale market.
  - Wowfunhappy 7y ago
    Not Valve's problem. Valve is not obligated to provide a framework that makes reselling games safe and easy, they just need to allow the transfer.
    - shadowgovt 7y ago
      Not problem; opportunity.
roblabla 7y ago
The same case also says that Steam must reimburse steam wallets when closing an account too.
jeroenhd 7y ago
... which would then make many of the in-game gambling systems illegal because it can be cashed out, which would ban a lot of the lootbox gambling games. I don't really see a problem here to be honest.

zouhair 7y ago

How is that?

ihuman 7y ago
If you sell items from certain games (like CSGO) or redeem a gift card, you get credit applied to your steam account. This can be used to purchase games, then you could (hypothetically) sell them for real-world cash.
- zouhair 7y ago
  Well yeah. But if they are forced to allow reselling of games, I bet they won't allow that. Only games you bought with real money could be resold. They can set more rules too.

strig 7y ago

They wouldn't necessarily need to implement that though, just a way of transferring licences to someone else. People could figure out their own payment.

shadowgovt 7y ago
There's the problem of needing escrow for selling the game in that scenario; if, say, they implement game resale as "You can ask Steam to cut your access and give you a unique code someone else can enter to gain access," there's the problem that if I buy that code from you, I have no knowledge of if it'll actually work when I get home (maybe you sold it twice?). ... and then Steam can offer payment via their in-store currency (with x% shaved off the top) to basically serve as an escrow intermediary. Win-win for everyone except the developers deprived of first-sales by the new resale market.
- Wowfunhappy 7y ago
  Not Valve's problem. Valve is not obligated to provide a framework that makes reselling games safe and easy, they just need to allow the transfer.
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    Not problem; opportunity.

roblabla 7y ago

The same case also says that Steam must reimburse steam wallets when closing an account too.

jeroenhd 7y ago

... which would then make many of the in-game gambling systems illegal because it can be cashed out, which would ban a lot of the lootbox gambling games. I don't really see a problem here to be honest.