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As a chrome-user: this. Firefox lost me years ago due to performance differences, and since chrome works fine for me, there was no ux-related reason to switch b

As a chrome-user: this. Firefox lost me years ago due to performance differences, and since chrome works fine for me, there was no ux-related reason to switch back. The day I'll see ads everywhere will be the day I'm back to firefox, and without second thoughts at that. If I really like your service, I'll happily pay for it. I hate ads, the psychological strats behind them are completely unacceptable. I'd happily pay google a subscription-rate, if that's what it takes tbh. Take my money, not my attention.

sprafa 7y ago
Firefox is fast again
- Endy 7y ago
  Firefox always was fast. You were using it wrong.
collyw 7y ago
I think Firefox is faster than Chrome these days. Unfortunately I prefer the web developer tools in Chrome, so I use Chromium as I wasn't a fan of every URL I type going to Google.
- treypitt 7y ago
  Likewise. Unfortunately, some services such as YouTube TV don't work on chromium. Also if you're not on linux, updating is a pain (you must do it manually iirc)
  - collyw 7y ago
    Opera was my other workaround.
    - BuckRogers 7y ago
      Have you tried the Edge[0] preview dev tools? I have not but I know it also has an extension[1] for VSCode that seems interesting. [0]https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/ https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/ [1]https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-edgedevtools.vscode-edge-devtools https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-edged...
      - collyw 7y ago
        I use Linux.
        BuckRogers 7y ago
        Edge is macOS/Windows only but VSCode is available over there. Worth keeping an eye out because I wouldn't be surprised if Edge lands on desktop Linux[0] someday. I'm not a web developer and a Firefox diehard for almost 20 years now, but the Edge beta has become my fulltime Chrome alternative when I feel I need to try something on a Chromium-based browser. [0]https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/04/microsoft-edge-may-come-to-linux-eventually-just-not-right-now https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/04/microsoft-edge-may-come-...
- lostmsu 7y ago
  Just a general warning. A few days ago I noticed Chromium from Chocolatey did not receive any updates in quite a while.
ryanisnan 7y ago
Is unlimited system resource usage ok for you? If not, you should really re-evaluate your premise of performance differences. Fire up sys mon, activity mon, top, or what have you, open both browsers. Firefox wins on every metric by substantial amounts (memory for example wins by an order of magnitude).
- krzyk 7y ago
  Chrome uses more memory than Firefox. Just try opening 50 tabs in each - chrome will eat your RAM.
  - bduerst 7y ago
    I've never understood this argument. What's the purpose of having RAM if it's not utilized?
    - ryanisnan 7y ago
      That logic works if you're not bounded on RAM, but it's not an inexhaustible resource; personally I'd rather keep it free for VMs or other high cost operations.
- hans1729 7y ago
  Since I never max out my resources (mbp 2016, 16 gigs, entire workload happens on servers and not on my local machine) that doesn't really affect me - and with 50+ tabs open frequently, just go ahead and take my ram to keep them available, sure. Unused resources are wasted resources - and again, I'm never above 10gigs, maybe 12-13 if I have a local vm running. Like I said: ux-wise, I'm not impacted negatively by using chrome, at all. If my laptops resources were more limited or my local workload was bigger, I'd probably check out Firefox, but since I'm not bottlenecked, why bother?

sprafa 7y ago

Firefox is fast again

Endy 7y ago
Firefox always was fast. You were using it wrong.

collyw 7y ago

I think Firefox is faster than Chrome these days. Unfortunately I prefer the web developer tools in Chrome, so I use Chromium as I wasn't a fan of every URL I type going to Google.

treypitt 7y ago
Likewise. Unfortunately, some services such as YouTube TV don't work on chromium. Also if you're not on linux, updating is a pain (you must do it manually iirc)
- collyw 7y ago
  Opera was my other workaround.
  - BuckRogers 7y ago
    Have you tried the Edge[0] preview dev tools? I have not but I know it also has an extension[1] for VSCode that seems interesting. [0]https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/ https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/ [1]https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-edgedevtools.vscode-edge-devtools https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-edged...
    - collyw 7y ago
      I use Linux.
      - BuckRogers 7y ago
        Edge is macOS/Windows only but VSCode is available over there. Worth keeping an eye out because I wouldn't be surprised if Edge lands on desktop Linux[0] someday. I'm not a web developer and a Firefox diehard for almost 20 years now, but the Edge beta has become my fulltime Chrome alternative when I feel I need to try something on a Chromium-based browser. [0]https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/04/microsoft-edge-may-come-to-linux-eventually-just-not-right-now https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/04/microsoft-edge-may-come-...
lostmsu 7y ago
Just a general warning. A few days ago I noticed Chromium from Chocolatey did not receive any updates in quite a while.

ryanisnan 7y ago

Is unlimited system resource usage ok for you? If not, you should really re-evaluate your premise of performance differences. Fire up sys mon, activity mon, top, or what have you, open both browsers. Firefox wins on every metric by substantial amounts (memory for example wins by an order of magnitude).

krzyk 7y ago
Chrome uses more memory than Firefox. Just try opening 50 tabs in each - chrome will eat your RAM.
- bduerst 7y ago
  I've never understood this argument. What's the purpose of having RAM if it's not utilized?
  - ryanisnan 7y ago
    That logic works if you're not bounded on RAM, but it's not an inexhaustible resource; personally I'd rather keep it free for VMs or other high cost operations.
hans1729 7y ago
Since I never max out my resources (mbp 2016, 16 gigs, entire workload happens on servers and not on my local machine) that doesn't really affect me - and with 50+ tabs open frequently, just go ahead and take my ram to keep them available, sure. Unused resources are wasted resources - and again, I'm never above 10gigs, maybe 12-13 if I have a local vm running. Like I said: ux-wise, I'm not impacted negatively by using chrome, at all. If my laptops resources were more limited or my local workload was bigger, I'd probably check out Firefox, but since I'm not bottlenecked, why bother?