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Still below the national / global average. I see nothing newsworthy here, just a very sad story.
by nakedrobot2 7y ago
Still below the national / global average. I see nothing newsworthy here, just a very sad story.
- techer 7y agoMaybe some lessons can be learned before whatever average makes it newsworthy to you...
- kryogen1c 7y agoYour point is not valid because the headline is not "someone committed suicide", the headline names Facebook. The connotation is not that there are general mental health lessons, but rather implies there is something facebook specific. GP is pointing out that is likely false based on the stats quoted. This is not a treatise about depression, its clickbait against a popular-to-hate corporation.
- techer 7y agoFair enough!
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- np_tedious 7y agoAverage of what?
- jarfil 7y agoAverage suicides per thousand workers of a company, maybe. The US has an average suicide rate of 13 per 100,000 per year, Facebook has 40,000 employees and right now a single suicide. They'd need at least 4 more to meet the average this year.
- WalterSear 7y agoSingle public suicide.
- eecsninja 7y agoThis is significant because it is a company that pays very well. Not because of where it stands relative to the US average. I'd like to know what this person actually did for work. The media tends to ambiguously use terms like "tech worker" without specifying whether they are technical or non-tech employees at tech companies.
- phtrivier 7y agoSetting aside the fact that counting tragedies is kinda in bad taste, I think it's relevant to point at a past exemple: "French" company Orange, who has around 100K employees, got into national trouble for a "wave" of suicide that counted in the thenths. [1] The company's french boss got terrible press by calling the series of event a "mode des suicide" (roughly translatable as "suicide fad" or "suicide fashion"). The events highlighted "structural" managerial problems at the company. FB has around ~20k employees, so that might affect the "newsworthyness ratio". It is obviously too early to know if the situation at Facebook is comparable to Orange. I would not be surprised at all, if the narative of "Facebook badly treats is employed" gets popular. FB already has a rather bad rep. Facebook top management had better handle this thoughfully - if only, by pure human decency. [1]: https://theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/19/orange-france-investigates-second-wave-suicides https://theguardian.com/business/2014/mar/19/orange-france-i...
- jarfil 7y agoFrance has an average suicide rate of 12 over 100,000 per year. A company with 100K employees and over 20 suicides per year, is concerning.
- DanBC 7y agoYou can not compare the global average because different countries have very different methods to define and count death by suicide. For example, we're all calling this particular death a suicide but there's a chance that the San Mateo coroner / medical examiner rules this as something else.